From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BD4E133D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91F7E8D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <7d7ee594528f9557574e32533d78f523a786e23e.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Sasha Levin Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:48:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20180918193039.GP3821@sasha-vm> References: <20180917115916.37fd5388@coco.lan> <2174637.IVJC5EhCEq@avalon> <20180918160236.GK2471@sirena.org.uk> <86046026ff5a83c48d87c41abaf89bf04ddd71b7.camel@infradead.org> <20180918172450.GS2471@sirena.org.uk> <6bcd4ba815b55f5979475688ed725c43ac3d079f.camel@infradead.org> <20180918193039.GP3821@sasha-vm> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-VrR6z9gIr/KfnH8MA1ww" Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mchehab+samsung@kernel.org" , Tim Bird , ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --=-VrR6z9gIr/KfnH8MA1ww Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 19:30 +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:22:59PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 10:24 -0700, Mark Brown wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:50:45PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 09:02 -0700, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > > At least with Outlook the problem is partly that Outlook's model = of how > > > > > e-mail works isn't really able to cope with what we need, it tran= slates > > > > > everything into internal formats in a way that is at best fragile= for > > > > > what we need. > > > >=20 > > > > Outlook is a pile of crap, but Exchange itself works tolerably thes= e > > > > days. It's fairly simple to send and receive patches through Exchan= ge > > > > if you don't make the mistake of using Outlook. > > >=20 > > > Unfortunately some people do get forced into that :( > >=20 > > Into using Exchange sure... but *Outlook*? >=20 > Yes, an example is when corp policy forces 2FA auth for exachange. I'm > not aware of any non-outlook apps that support that. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2 That seems harder than it should be, but apparently works for some. cf. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D775690 If you have suggestions to improve it, I'm sure they would be welcomed... --=-VrR6z9gIr/KfnH8MA1ww Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCEFQw ggUxMIIEGaADAgECAhBNRhEyk/HZ7naOeTHWrzuAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGXMQswCQYDVQQG EwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYD VQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDE9MDsGA1UEAxM0Q09NT0RPIFJTQSBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu dGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTAeFw0xNzEyMjEwMDAwMDBaFw0xODEyMjEyMzU5 NTlaMCQxIjAgBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWE2R3bXcyQGluZnJhZGVhZC5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB 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