On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 19:30 +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:22:59PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 10:24 -0700, Mark Brown wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:50:45PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 09:02 -0700, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > > At least with Outlook the problem is partly that Outlook's model of how > > > > > e-mail works isn't really able to cope with what we need, it translates > > > > > everything into internal formats in a way that is at best fragile for > > > > > what we need. > > > > > > > > Outlook is a pile of crap, but Exchange itself works tolerably these > > > > days. It's fairly simple to send and receive patches through Exchange > > > > if you don't make the mistake of using Outlook. > > > > > > Unfortunately some people do get forced into that :( > > > > Into using Exchange sure... but *Outlook*? > > Yes, an example is when corp policy forces 2FA auth for exachange. I'm > not aware of any non-outlook apps that support that. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2 That seems harder than it should be, but apparently works for some. cf. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775690 If you have suggestions to improve it, I'm sure they would be welcomed...