From: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 21:43:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <796882a3-cb05-41a9-b7ca-8af49a05623f@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aOaujzH1dl-OEbsO@laps>
On 10/8/25 2:33 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 01:04:54PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Depending on how you look at things, this is potentially a topic for
>> either MS or KS.
>>
>> One way to lower the load on maintainers is to make it easier for
>> contributors to send higher quality patches, and to catch errors before
>> they land in various git trees.
>>
>> Along those lines, when the AI code submission thread started over the
>> summer, I decided to see if it was possible to get reasonable code
>> reviews out of AI.
>
> This is a really great subject to discuss.
>
> IMO when the AI topic initially came up the concerns around AI drowned
> discussions of finding places where AI could be useful and provide
> support for
> maintainers struggling under the load.
>
>> There are certainly false positives, but Alexei and the BPF developers
>> wired up my prompts into the BPF CI, and you can find the results in
>> their github CI. Everything in red is a bug the AI review found:
>>
>> https://github.com/kernel-patches/bpf/actions/workflows/ai-code-
>> review.yml
>> My goal for KS/MS is to discuss how to enable maintainers to use review
>> automation tools to lower their workload. I don't want to build new CI
>> here, so the goal would be enabling integration with existing CI.
>
> This is great to see!
>
> I think that AUTOSEL is already a large scale kernel patch review
> workflow and
> I'd love to work more towards a unified kernel patch AI review story that
> community members could use.
>
> I've gotten good feedback[1] from Linus about the AI AUTOSEL workflow
> and his
> idea around expanding our AI tooling to help with maintainer workflows
> sounds
> in line with what you're describing here.
Fantastic.
>
>> My question for everyone is what would it take to make all of this
>> useful? I'm working on funding for API access, so hopefully that part
>> won't be a problem.
>
> I've been playing with extending[2] b4 (unofficially) with AI workflows
> that
> are useful for myself. The patches themselves aren't too interesting,
> but what
> I found exciting is expanding b4 with tooling that maintainers can run
> locally
> and which will save them a good amound of time/effort.
>
> Something along the lines of "b4 ai review [commit]" or "b4 ai style
> [patch]".
Yeah, I think that'll really help as well.
>
>> There's definitely overlap between the bugs I'm finding and the bugs Dan
>> Carpenter finds, so I'm hoping he and I can team up as well.
>>
>> In terms of actual review details, the reviews have two parts:
>>
>> 1) The review prompts. These are stand alone and can just work on any
>> kernel tree. This is what BPF CI is currently using:
>>
>> https://github.com/masoncl/review-prompts/
>
> I think I'll borrow some of these :)
>
> It was interesting to read through some of the prompts and see where you
> had
> good and bad experience with the AI ("You're not smart enough to understand
> smp_mb()" :D )
If I'm being honest, I'm probably not smart enough to teach AI about
smp_mb(), but that's a different problem.
>
>> These prompts can also debug oopsen or syzbot reports (with varying
>> success).
>>
>> 2) A code indexing tool with MCP server that Claude can use to find
>> functions, types, and call chains more effectively. This makes it more
>> likely Claude can trace complex relationships in the code:
>>
>> https://github.com/facebookexperimental/semcode
>> Asking claude to produce a callgraph for btrfs_search_slot() consumes
>> ~444K tokens. With semcode installed, the same query produces better
>> results and uses 25K tokens. (btrfs_search_slot() has a huge callchain)
>
> Also very interesting! AUTOSEL is a token eating machine. Reducing token
> counts
> while still getting the same (or better) quality of outputs is really
> great.
I think/hope the extra context will make a huge difference, and I want
to add indexing for git history and lore archives as well.
-chris
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-08 17:04 Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:20 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-08 18:11 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-08 18:35 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:57 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:04 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:14 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:42 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 21:08 ` Kees Cook
2025-10-09 1:37 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:33 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09 1:43 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2025-10-09 14:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-08 19:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 19:28 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:39 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 20:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 20:53 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09 9:37 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 12:48 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:50 ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 20:30 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09 12:32 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 20:30 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-08 20:38 ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 22:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-09 9:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 10:03 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-10 7:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 11:40 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-10 11:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 14:35 ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 14:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-09 14:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 15:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 7:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:15 ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 15:07 ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:01 ` checkpatch encouragement improvements (was RE: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools) Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 17:11 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-10 17:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-10 19:21 ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:11 ` [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 16:47 ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 17:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-11 10:28 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09 16:31 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 17:19 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:24 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:31 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-09 17:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 18:42 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10 15:52 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-10-09 14:47 ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 15:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 17:58 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09 1:15 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 20:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 12:40 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 14:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-10 3:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-10-10 14:12 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-31 16:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-14 7:16 ` Dan Carpenter
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