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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linus-next: improving functional testing for to-be-merged pull requests
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:54:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <792F4759-EA33-48B8-9AD0-FA14FA69E86E@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZxZ8MStt4e8JXeJb@sashalap>



On October 21, 2024 9:07:13 AM PDT, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org> wrote:
>In an attempt to address the concerns, we're trying out a new "linus-next"
>tree is being created and maintained with the following characteristics:
>
>	1. Composed of pull requests sent directly to Linus
>
>	2. Contains branches destined for imminent inclusion by Linus

But this means hours or a day or 2 at most.

>	3. Higher code quality expectation (these are pull requests that
>	maintainers expect Linus to pull)

Are people putting things in linux-next that they don't expect to send to Linus? That seems like the greater problem.

>	4. Continuous tree (not daily tags like in linux-next),
>	facilitating easier bisection

I'm not sure how useful that is given the very small time window to find bugs.

>The linus-next tree aims to provide a more stable and testable
>integration point compared to linux-next,

Why not just use linux-next? I don't understand how this is any different except that it provides very little time to do testing and will need manual conflict resolutions that have already been done in linux-next.

How about this, instead: no one sends -rc1 PRs to Linus that didn't go through -next. Just have a bot that replies to all PRs with a health check, and Linus can pull it if he thinks it looks good. 

For example, for a given PR, the bot can report:

- Were the patches CCed to a mailing list?
- A histogram of how long the patches were in next (to show bake times)
- Are any patches associated with test failures? (0day and many other CIs are already running tests against -next; parse those reports)

We could have a real pre-submit checker! :)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-21 16:07 Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 17:18 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-10-21 17:36   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22  9:11     ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-10-21 17:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-21 17:30   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 18:10     ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-21 18:36 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-21 19:44   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 22:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-21 21:41 ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22  9:10   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-22 13:19     ` Mark Brown
2024-10-31 19:22     ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-21 23:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 12:06   ` Jiri Kosina
2024-10-22 14:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 14:36       ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22 14:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22  4:54 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2024-10-22  6:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-22  8:12     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-22  9:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 11:51       ` James Bottomley
2024-10-22 12:47         ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22 19:33       ` Kees Cook
2024-10-23  2:24         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-23  5:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-23  8:20         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  8:36           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23  9:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  9:23               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23 10:11               ` Dan Carpenter
2024-10-23 17:51               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-24  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-10-24  5:01                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  5:16                   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-24  6:49                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  7:01                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-24  9:21                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  9:24                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24  9:49                             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24 11:08                               ` Mark Brown
2024-10-24 11:14                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-25 21:04                               ` Jiri Kosina
2024-10-24 14:39                       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-25  1:11                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-25  3:52                           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-25 11:18                           ` Mark Brown
2024-10-25 17:23                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-24 17:53                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-25  1:17                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-25  2:07                           ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-31 19:08               ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-31 19:19                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  9:32           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-23 10:18             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-23 11:41           ` James Bottomley
2024-10-22  9:37     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-23  5:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-23 17:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 18:05           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-23 18:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 18:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23 18:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 18:37             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 19:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 20:22                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 21:20             ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-10-23 21:24             ` Mark Brown
2024-10-24  2:51               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 10:52     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22 11:50       ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22 14:47         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22 15:25           ` Mark Brown
2024-10-28 22:46     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-29  8:10       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29 11:30         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-29 12:46           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29 15:07             ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-30  6:46               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-30 14:10                 ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-31  8:13                   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29  8:20       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-30 17:08       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-30 17:15         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-30 17:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-04  8:49       ` Joel Granados
2024-11-04 11:01         ` Sasha Levin
2024-11-25 20:05       ` Joel Granados
2024-10-22  7:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-22  8:41   ` Benjamin Tissoires

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