From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:19:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7649ab67-cbaa-291b-d0e1-40e718c02523@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180905144233.GB15573@kroah.com>
On 09/05/2018 07:42 AM, Greg KH wrote:
[ ... ]
> I could do a "one release a week" cycle, which I would _love_ but that
> is not going to decrease the number of patches per release, it is only
> going to make them large (patch rate stays the same, and increases, no
> matter when I release) So I had been thinking that to break the
> releases up into a "here's a hundred or so patches" per release, was a
> helpful thing to the reviewers.
>
> If this assumption is incorrect, yes, I can go to one-per-week, if
> people agree that they can handle the large increase per release
> properly. Can you all do that?
>
Tough call. More patches per release means higher likelihood of conflicts,
and thus increases the per-release risk (I just checked, chromeos-4.4
carries a whopping 15,000+ patches on top of v4.4.y. Outch). On the other
side, I do miss releases lately, but that is because it sometimes takes
several days for a merge to be accepted by the Chrome OS QC, on top of
the internal merge review process which also takes 2-3 days. Thinking
about it, I'd rather miss a release once in a while than having a rigid
release schedule with more patches per release.
Ultimately, my conclusion is that the current process works fine for us,
but I can also live with fixed schedule. However, I would really dislike
a longer -rc cycle since, for me, it would be zero gain and added pain.
> Are we going to do a "patch tuesday" like our friends in Redmond now? :)
>
> Note, if we do pick a specific day-per-week, then anything outside of
> that cycle will cause people to look _very_ close at the release. I
> don't know if that's a good thing or not, but be aware that it could
> cause unintended side-affects. Personally I think the fact that we are
> _not_ regular is a good thing, no out-of-band information leakage
> happens that way.
>
Agreed.
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-05 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-04 20:58 Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 21:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:31 ` Greg KH
2018-09-04 21:22 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-05 14:42 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2018-09-05 18:31 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 21:23 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-06 2:17 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-04 21:33 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 21:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:03 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:14 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 23:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:17 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-06 3:56 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-09-04 21:58 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 4:53 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 6:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:16 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 8:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:56 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 9:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-05 9:33 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 10:11 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 9:58 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 10:47 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 12:24 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 12:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 13:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 13:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:00 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 14:06 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 21:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 17:06 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2018-09-05 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 13:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 13:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:18 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:20 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:54 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 15:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 15:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:29 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 13:16 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:27 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:00 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 10:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-06 8:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-06 12:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-04 21:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:06 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:35 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:45 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 2:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 8:31 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 3:44 ` Eduardo Valentin
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