From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AD5F1EB36 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2025 20:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1759956787; cv=none; b=ArSPpEoTNJzZZJSRvwe79CZnid0nrlsPQTcBTTA75Zp4eTcCC2M1HU0ZXWmoHBSl4h1kVove35ZXSLhxeuoqx6TgXOnO01ctZxTyUB9LoxVOCy7rfzPC2ciKJuXXBv2u4Jf40G5FAPHgRa71A32YgnSuoRN1za+/tggT+qpODjg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1759956787; c=relaxed/simple; bh=lUx5yXmuBhEcITptFpKEr2xjLvBf7VIKUEdu2pD83bk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=MQC8ErxB2xDszisVopdaeBDmyVQl2xbpY26WkiLPiWOQNIlY18Nd98cyxo1OariFewZTubS65miUgvcZr1Nq6DfEbUOey6H9f1aIBIKGj9AVgtTSY5hUr/BFTpf5NuCcgSq6XC+DjeRauYPozA+L7P9P/NOwMAtUmy/EI30cfyw= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=jj6uYgni; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="jj6uYgni" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3451FC4CEE7; Wed, 8 Oct 2025 20:53:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1759956784; bh=lUx5yXmuBhEcITptFpKEr2xjLvBf7VIKUEdu2pD83bk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jj6uYgniPPKG4GdrYXUBzkh+UaW1qB9lwnOIVv/x5ztk2VXrl/PTh2EcNGG1b/ely vs3B6DorTkr6LbA8e43CM6gjU8YwGDw8shWKAPuFSjHJu+Sho6LpakOR/k5IwlSMv/ c/AsHTEA0hS53296oRa2D5O1DABypyHwOXKmH1gyg09ljmIDXt7ByZFTN6o1WSluBI jLv8FCScPE1Po0ILYXD+HspvRvXk5qZmygGO+Na0nGT5n/uP0zsKHPjDOtHFymZ745 TrX/s8mRdOGI2LhshIY7sXMJElYysFrmYGEaROyrrKK959+StDg5v4x1ysU8BuC7pB UZbvNAKlc8K+w== Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 21:53:00 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Andrew Lunn Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Laurent Pinchart , Chris Mason , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Carpenter , Alexei Starovoitov Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools Message-ID: <693be05a-2b23-461e-904e-f016f33c208e@sirena.org.uk> References: <20251008193349.GI16422@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <64f6eab8-1f0a-42e2-835f-a548d2fd6df5@lunn.ch> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MMG9FvMgaEkvE3mi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64f6eab8-1f0a-42e2-835f-a548d2fd6df5@lunn.ch> X-Cookie: 10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0. --MMG9FvMgaEkvE3mi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 10:29:11PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote: > But this also requires these tests are reproducible, and that is one > question i have. checkpatch, sparse, kdoc, Coccinelle are all > reproducible. They give the same answer every time. If it passes for > the developer, it should also pass for the Maintainer. But is this > true of AI tools? Are they reproducible? Even for the more stable tools there's issues with people running different versions of the tools, or for something like DT validation running with a different schema version. --MMG9FvMgaEkvE3mi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmjmzysACgkQJNaLcl1U h9D+ywf7BXmsjBKAG6a3qzJdHPdiYByxqBRJl0M+f18ng/cDGfTmJQOBua8/ZO1S NaArbebPdr+YDCMBZsUbwhSxijsHoOlc7O4QLXpzwzXOEhacpBNqZe+vzYaKNlJG O1/d4pE/XoDc6Zg9KwO6ZUz/H0InCWkaEVr81xooyYOtknEEyd8vtLcX1vC4i5II 0U4meHA4trQpzqX4YBwqz6XOI34VhsdoXbfhvFt+La3RkANzY3KQ/wdV+OfgjHBp ZbtySF/jE9SNPoQzNMxEIK3tP2sCTUWJ8Lf6zRdH6BrwuRO30LjTMIuHMnXUI7/E PBsI60+j4lYSyErS8Bjmer9DwjQj+Q== =FKw0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MMG9FvMgaEkvE3mi--