From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0714BBCA for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-f172.google.com (mail-qt0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6E36293 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f172.google.com with SMTP id m36so4068737qtb.0 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Linus Torvalds , Takashi Iwai References: From: Laura Abbott Message-ID: <5e12e182-b656-e63d-dfe5-f463f1a7c97a@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:33:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ksummit , Dave Airlie , Greg Kroah-Hartman , David Miller , Doug Ledford , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 04/18/2017 01:13 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:59:37 +0200, >> Linus Torvalds wrote: >>> >>> Some driver subsystems may be huge (eg media and sound), but I >>> don't know if they have issues. Mauro/Takashi? >> >> In the sound area, majority of commits come from Mark Brown's ASoC >> tree nowadays, and he should be included. Mark is already in your >> list, so we're covered pretty well by that. > > Ok. I don't know how many from that top-50 list we actually would be > able to have. > > Not only do I think that we should try to limit it to maybe ~35 people > (random number taken out of thin air, but feels small enough that > people could basically just do it in a smaller room and keep things > personal), but the list is just the 50 kernel maintainer side. > > And there's another important side to this if we can make it work: the > *users* of the kernel. Notably I'd really like to have kernel leads > from the main distros, ie Android, Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu. > > I think that when we talk about process pain points, we definitely > need to have downstream involved. Greg is there with his stable > maintainer hat on too, but he's still "ours". > > It would be really good to have whoever is in charge of the Android > kernel there (not manager, but tech lead), and not make it a blame > game, but really try to also talk about how we could perhaps bridge > that gap somehow. I think the Android lead is Rom Lemarchand, or he would know the best representative. > > I'm not sure who those people actually are, but I suspect this list > contains people who can point to each tech lead.. I think it's Laura > Abbott for Fedora, for example? > We're a team of two so there isn't really a tech lead per se. Justin Forbes is the other full time Fedora kernel maintainer. Laura