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To: Richard Weinberger , Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Steven Rostedt , Andrew Morton , Konstantin Ryabitsev , users , ksummit References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <20260226090425.11bb585062783c0e1fcf0b32@linux-foundation.org> <20260227101631.67756268@gandalf.local.home> <677258882.1999.1772206555300.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at> <1655051015.2216.1772209338375.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at> From: Thorsten Leemhuis Content-Language: de-DE, en-US Autocrypt: addr=linux@leemhuis.info; keydata= xsFNBFJ4AQ0BEADCz16x4kl/YGBegAsYXJMjFRi3QOr2YMmcNuu1fdsi3XnM+xMRaukWby47 JcsZYLDKRHTQ/Lalw9L1HI3NRwK+9ayjg31wFdekgsuPbu4x5RGDIfyNpd378Upa8SUmvHik apCnzsxPTEE4Z2KUxBIwTvg+snEjgZ03EIQEi5cKmnlaUynNqv3xaGstx5jMCEnR2X54rH8j QPvo2l5/79Po58f6DhxV2RrOrOjQIQcPZ6kUqwLi6EQOi92NS9Uy6jbZcrMqPIRqJZ/tTKIR OLWsEjNrc3PMcve+NmORiEgLFclN8kHbPl1tLo4M5jN9xmsa0OZv3M0katqW8kC1hzR7mhz+ Rv4MgnbkPDDO086HjQBlS6Zzo49fQB2JErs5nZ0mwkqlETu6emhxneAMcc67+ZtTeUj54K2y Iu8kk6ghaUAfgMqkdIzeSfhO8eURMhvwzSpsqhUs7pIj4u0TPN8OFAvxE/3adoUwMaB+/plk sNe9RsHHPV+7LGADZ6OzOWWftk34QLTVTcz02bGyxLNIkhY+vIJpZWX9UrfGdHSiyYThHCIy /dLz95b9EG+1tbCIyNynr9TjIOmtLOk7ssB3kL3XQGgmdQ+rJ3zckJUQapLKP2YfBi+8P1iP rKkYtbWk0u/FmCbxcBA31KqXQZoR4cd1PJ1PDCe7/DxeoYMVuwARAQABzSdUaG9yc3RlbiBM ZWVtaHVpcyA8bGludXhAbGVlbWh1aXMuaW5mbz7CwZQEEwEKAD4CGwMFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsF FgIDAQACHgECF4AWIQSoq8a+lZZX4oPULXVytubvTFg9LQUCaOO74gUJHfEI0wAKCRBytubv TFg9Lc4iD/4omf2z88yGmior2f1BCQTAWxI2Em3S4EJY2+Drs8ZrJ1vNvdWgBrqbOtxN6xHF uvrpM6nbYIoNyZpsZrqS1mCA4L7FwceFBaT9CTlQsZLVV/vQvh2/3vbj6pQbCSi7iemXklF7 y6qMfA7rirvojSJZ2mi6tKIQnD2ndVhSsxmo/mAAJc4tiEL+wkdaX1p7bh2Ainp6sfxTqL6h z1kYyjnijpnHaPgQ6GQeGG1y+TSQFKkb/FylDLj3b3efzyNkRjSohcauTuYIq7bniw7sI8qY KUuUkrw8Ogi4e6GfBDgsgHDngDn6jUR2wDAiT6iR7qsoxA+SrJDoeiWS/SK5KRgiKMt66rx1 Jq6JowukzNxT3wtXKuChKP3EDzH9aD+U539szyKjfn5LyfHBmSfR42Iz0sofE4O89yvp0bYz GDmlgDpYWZN40IFERfCSxqhtHG1X6mQgxS0MknwoGkNRV43L3TTvuiNrsy6Mto7rrQh0epSn +hxwwS0bOTgJQgOO4fkTvto2sEBYXahWvmsEFdLMOcAj2t7gJ+XQLMsBypbo94yFYfCqCemJ +zU5X8yDUeYDNXdR2veePdS3Baz23/YEBCOtw+A9CP0U4ImXzp82U+SiwYEEQIGWx+aVjf4n RZ/LLSospzO944PPK+Na+30BERaEjx04MEB9ByDFdfkSbM7BTQRSeAENARAAzu/3satWzly6 +Lqi5dTFS9+hKvFMtdRb/vW4o9CQsMqL2BJGoE4uXvy3cancvcyodzTXCUxbesNP779JqeHy s7WkF2mtLVX2lnyXSUBm/ONwasuK7KLz8qusseUssvjJPDdw8mRLAWvjcsYsZ0qgIU6kBbvY ckUWkbJj/0kuQCmmulRMcaQRrRYrk7ZdUOjaYmjKR+UJHljxLgeregyiXulRJxCphP5migoy ioa1eset8iF9fhb+YWY16X1I3TnucVCiXixzxwn3uwiVGg28n+vdfZ5lackCOj6iK4+lfzld z4NfIXK+8/R1wD9yOj1rr3OsjDqOaugoMxgEFOiwhQDiJlRKVaDbfmC1G5N1YfQIn90znEYc M7+Sp8Rc5RUgN5yfuwyicifIJQCtiWgjF8ttcIEuKg0TmGb6HQHAtGaBXKyXGQulD1CmBHIW zg7bGge5R66hdbq1BiMX5Qdk/o3Sr2OLCrxWhqMdreJFLzboEc0S13BCxVglnPqdv5sd7veb 0az5LGS6zyVTdTbuPUu4C1ZbstPbuCBwSwe3ERpvpmdIzHtIK4G9iGIR3Seo0oWOzQvkFn8m 2k6H2/Delz9IcHEefSe5u0GjIA18bZEt7R2k8CMZ84vpyWOchgwXK2DNXAOzq4zwV8W4TiYi FiIVXfSj185vCpuE7j0ugp0AEQEAAcLBfAQYAQoAJgIbDBYhBKirxr6Vllfig9QtdXK25u9M WD0tBQJo47viBQkd8QjTAAoJEHK25u9MWD0tCH8P/1b+AZ8K3D4TCBzXNS0muN6pLnISzFa0 cWcylwxX2TrZeGpJkg14v2R0cDjLRre9toM44izLaz4SKyfgcBSj9XET0103cVXUKt6SgT1o tevoEqFMKKp3vjDpKEnrcOSOCnfH9W0mXx/jDWbjlKbBlN7UBVoZD/FMM5Ul0KSVFJ9Uij0Z S2WAg50NQi71NBDPcga21BMajHKLFzb4wlBWSmWyryXI6ouabvsbsLjkW3IYl2JupTbK3viH pMRIZVb/serLqhJgpaakqgV7/jDplNEr/fxkmhjBU7AlUYXe2BRkUCL5B8KeuGGvG0AEIQR0 dP6QlNNBV7VmJnbU8V2X50ZNozdcvIB4J4ncK4OznKMpfbmSKm3t9Ui/cdEK+N096ch6dCAh AeZ9dnTC7ncr7vFHaGqvRC5xwpbJLg3xM/BvLUV6nNAejZeAXcTJtOM9XobCz/GeeT9prYhw 8zG721N4hWyyLALtGUKIVWZvBVKQIGQRPtNC7s9NVeLIMqoH7qeDfkf10XL9tvSSDY6KVl1n K0gzPCKcBaJ2pA1xd4pQTjf4jAHHM4diztaXqnh4OFsu3HOTAJh1ZtLvYVj5y9GFCq2azqTD pPI3FGMkRipwxdKGAO7tJVzM7u+/+83RyUjgAbkkkD1doWIl+iGZ4s/Jxejw1yRH0R5/uTaB MEK4 In-Reply-To: <1655051015.2216.1772209338375.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PPP-Message-ID: <177228608267.1179507.8244685339638036233@mxe9fb.netcup.net> X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5547F61741 X-NC-CID: oVeGiF4+NIjtJ6ek9N6BhO0Zyxb9yqf9ndpWPfDpReXEcsizVL8= On 2/27/26 17:22, Richard Weinberger wrote: > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- >> Von: "Geert Uytterhoeven" >>>> I just told them to randomly modify the file, do a git diff and redirect it >>>> into another file (making a random patch), and run get_maintainers.pl on >>>> it. That's a big hack and having a better interface to point others too >>>> would be useful. >>> >>> I'm pretty sure someone can vibe code us a neat webinterface which queries >>> get_maintainers.pl in the background. >> >> ... including a big fat message wrapped in a tag, which suggests >> to check manually if a few addresses should be dropped? >> >> Or perhaps this should be restricted to return mailing lists only? > > Sure. > What I have in mind is something like a web interface where you > enter either the source file, Well, regular users reporting a bug usually don't deal with source files and might not even have an idea how to get from a module name to source files. For kernel developers it's obviously different, but those most likely have the source tree lying around already and thus can run scripts/get_maintainer.pl -f directly. So support for source files doesn't help that much, I'd say (but of course it would be "nice to have", too). > module name, This, on the other hand, would help quite a few people. Also, broad categories with optional, more fine-graded subcategories would be nice for some areas. Like mm, which has 18 entries in MAINTAINERS that start with "MEMORY MANAGEMENT - ", which confuses people that do not know "if in doubt, just use the entry for MEMORY MANAGEMENT" > heck even a stack trace or a BUG/WARN_ON/Oops This even more (but of course this is harder) > and the interface gives an advice how to mail to which mailing list. > E.g. what information to include, how to send plain text mail, etc... Yeah. But unless somebody volunteers to realize this within a few weeks, I'd say: Let's finally first reduce the immediate problem (users reporting bugs to a place where they might not even reach the developers) by putting a new welcome page on bugzilla.kernel.org in place. Ciao, Thorsten