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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:35:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55be8de371d73948bcd309caf6ec56efc8f12689.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj8mfMkkLFXdMLyAzUPRH-m1h=+uJrJFSxQSRuRxbi-iw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2025-10-13 at 12:20 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 12:07, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> > 
> > This was the *original* definition that I proposed, which was
> > vetoed by Linus because it didn't provide a clickable experience.
> 
> Yeah., I still don't believe that Message-ID is any better than a
> link.
> 
> And the only believable argument *for* this all is the "one-click
> experience".
> 
> Because I still believe that "if you use tools, then 'b4 dig' is
> better than *any* pointless tag that just is entirely redundant and
> only cuts down on the available information".

I think we could possibly get the best of both worlds.  Once b4 dig
works well enough, it should be possible to do that server side as well
as client side, so we could get lore to do the server side stuff and
have a lore link that produces the output taking a message-id as input
like the link: tags do now (say https://lore.kernel.org/dig/<msgid>)

That way the tooling that uses msgid would still work (with a bit of
tweaking) and there is a clickable link that hopefully provides more
useful information.

Regards,

James


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13 11:53 James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-13 12:48   ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:50   ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 14:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2025-10-13 17:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-14 19:12   ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-14 19:35     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 22:01       ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-15 22:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 10:16           ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-16 12:18             ` Hans de Goede
2025-10-16 18:39           ` David Woodhouse
2025-10-16  7:43         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 20:23     ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16  8:08     ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-13 15:40 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 16:31   ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 17:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 17:50       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 19:07         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 19:35             ` James Bottomley [this message]
2025-10-13 19:37               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:34             ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 20:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:58               ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 20:59               ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-13 21:46                 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-14 14:23                   ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14 11:09               ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 19:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-14 16:01   ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-14 17:46     ` Greg KH
2025-10-14 17:57       ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:09       ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:55         ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 18:04           ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-15 18:37         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 19:13           ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 19:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 19:17             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 22:51               ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16  4:26                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-10-16  6:57               ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 10:04                 ` Jani Nikula
2025-10-16 11:54                 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 12:18                   ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 12:29                     ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:00                       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16 13:47                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 14:36                         ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 14:58                         ` Rob Herring
2025-10-16 15:07                           ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:36                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:52                               ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:37                             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 19:29                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:32                             ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 23:53                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:09                         ` James Bottomley
2025-10-17  2:27                           ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-17  8:44                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17  9:21                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-17 10:09                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-16 12:34                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 12:49                       ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 12:49                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 13:07                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:51                       ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-16 12:54                         ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:51                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 16:21                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 12:20                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 21:29             ` Kees Cook
2025-10-15 21:40             ` Mark Brown

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