From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0202FBC4 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seldrel01.sonyericsson.com (seldrel01.sonyericsson.com [37.139.156.2]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D63D11F for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55DCBB21.8070009@sonymobile.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:59:45 -0700 From: Tim Bird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Machek , Krzysztof Kozlowski References: <20150723105726.GC30929@amd> <20150723121441.GB29747@amd> <20150723084251.54da2be0@gandalf.local.home> <20150723154014.GD11162@sirena.org.uk> <55B7FD82.8010806@sonymobile.com> <55B82222.3010409@samsung.com> <20150729074011.GB12557@amd> In-Reply-To: <20150729074011.GB12557@amd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "kyungmin.park@samsung.com" , John Stultz , =?windows-1252?Q?=22Andersson=2C_Bj=F6rn=22?= Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 07/29/2015 12:40 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > >>> There is now a wiki page at: >>> See http://elinux.org/Kernel_areas_of_focus_for_mainlining >>> In particular it has a table showing certain areas that tend to have >>> a lot of out-of-tree code (e.g. most phones have between 80K to >>> 100K of lines of wireless driver support out-of-mainline) >> >> Did anyone see successful attempts of mainlining such vendor code? I >> mean mainlining by individuals, not by vendor company itself. > > That is what is happening on Nokia N900. It took some time, but we > have almost usable phone at this point. We'll have usable one once > power management is working and once we get some more reasonable code > to control ofono. Just an update on this thread. We held a BOF at LinuxCon last week on this topic. I gave a presentation with some background, and then we had a discussion. Notes from the meeting (and a link to the presentation) are at: http://elinux.org/LCNA_2015_Device_Mainlining_BOF_meeting_notes We'll be doing more BOFs on this topic at Linaro Connect and ELC Europe. I believe this would make a good discussion area for the kernel summit. The summit will likely include developers who have a good idea of detailed technical problem areas that need attention in order to make progress on this problem. Thanks. -- Tim