From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@sonymobile.com>
To: <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:40:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55AD32A7.2070608@sonymobile.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150717200247.GD8274@ret.masoncoding.com>
On 07/17/2015 01:02 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> The first patch really doesn't seem to be a problem. At least from
> the stats I've seen so far. How do we get the 10..100th patches,
> hopefully without 90% of them being whitespace fixes?
>
> We're not going to be able to answer these without
> actual data. This means surveys and talking with
> new developers that we really hope to turn into
> long term members of the community.
I may have a data set that is relevant here.
Last year I surveyed developers, targeting those who
1) had made a change to the kernel that shipped in a commercial product,
(defined as "qualified" in the survey analysis)
and
2) did not make contributions to mainline
There were 93 out of 278 "qualified" developers who never submitted a
patch. That's about 33% of the developers who responded to the survey.
I suspect that the no-submission rate for developers who either did
not see the survey or did not respond to it is much, much higher.
This survey was focused on developers in the consumer electronics field.
25% of all survey respondents (not just the "qualified" ones) reported
they did not know how to contribute a patch.
The survey was not detailed enough to determine what parts
of the submission process caused the most reluctance to contribute.
I would guess (not very scientifically) that although we have thousands
of developers contributing to mainline, the pool of developers paid by their
companies to make products is in the range of 10s of thousands, and
our rate of conversion to contributors is under 10%. (I'm not sure
if that's good or bad.)
-- Tim
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2015-07-08 0:50 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-08 1:40 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-08 19:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-09 19:37 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-09 20:11 ` josh
2015-07-09 20:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 21:00 ` josh
2015-07-09 21:03 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 21:42 ` Luck, Tony
2015-07-11 8:32 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-09 21:24 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-09 21:46 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-09 23:11 ` josh
2015-07-09 23:30 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 23:35 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-09 23:49 ` josh
2015-07-12 21:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-16 9:21 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-16 9:26 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-16 9:39 ` David Woodhouse
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2015-07-11 4:34 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-10 8:19 ` Peter Huewe
2015-07-10 17:06 ` Luck, Tony
2015-07-10 8:54 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-12 2:02 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-12 5:19 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-12 8:19 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-12 10:48 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-12 18:23 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-13 10:48 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-10 15:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-10 16:32 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-09 20:43 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-03 12:38 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-08-05 7:48 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-05 23:16 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-09 22:31 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-09 23:08 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-09 23:38 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-09 23:41 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-09 23:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-07-10 0:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-10 2:00 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-10 0:35 ` Mark Brown
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2015-07-10 18:24 ` Mark Brown
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2015-07-10 20:00 ` David Woodhouse
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2015-07-10 20:40 ` David Woodhouse
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2015-07-10 20:56 ` josh
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2015-07-10 21:07 ` josh
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2015-07-12 10:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-12 18:22 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-10 23:01 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-12 10:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-12 22:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-13 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-13 10:21 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-13 16:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-13 17:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-07-14 15:31 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-14 17:05 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-10 20:03 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-10 20:11 ` Guenter
2015-07-10 20:54 ` josh
2015-07-10 22:57 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-11 0:00 ` Dan Williams
2015-07-10 12:32 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-10 15:54 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-10 16:22 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-10 14:36 ` Dan Carpenter
2015-07-10 16:07 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-10 22:23 ` Greg KH
2015-07-11 0:00 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-11 0:13 ` Greg KH
2015-07-11 2:39 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-11 15:04 ` Greg KH
2015-07-12 21:27 ` Peter Hüwe
2015-07-14 23:58 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-14 2:24 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-11 5:54 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-11 13:29 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-11 15:18 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-11 16:45 ` Greg KH
2015-07-11 19:35 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-11 22:45 ` Greg KH
2015-07-12 1:16 ` Jason Cooper
2015-07-16 1:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 13:25 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 13:56 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-16 15:03 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 14:41 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 14:46 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-16 15:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 15:27 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-16 18:39 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 14:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 15:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-16 15:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 15:04 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-16 15:12 ` Ralf Baechle
2015-07-16 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 15:34 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-16 16:51 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-17 16:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-16 15:41 ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-07-16 15:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 15:52 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-16 16:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16 15:57 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-16 15:57 ` Olof Johansson
2015-07-17 16:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-16 16:09 ` Tim Bird
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2015-07-18 3:48 ` Steven Rostedt
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2015-08-01 22:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-08-03 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03 15:53 ` James Bottomley
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2015-08-02 12:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
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2015-07-16 16:28 ` Greg KH
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2015-07-31 13:17 ` Nicolas Ferre
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2015-07-17 12:21 ` Steven Rostedt
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2015-07-16 18:36 ` Mark Brown
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2015-07-17 17:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-17 17:43 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-17 17:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-17 19:30 ` Chris Mason
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2015-07-17 18:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-17 19:02 ` josh
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2015-07-17 20:24 ` josh
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2015-07-19 22:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-19 22:40 ` Josh Triplett
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