From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8989D305 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [58.251.152.64]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D6798D for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55AC5E3B.9040102@huawei.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:34:35 +0800 From: Zefan Li MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jiri Kosina References: <20150716094720.2bf9f5ac@gandalf.local.home> <55A7C7FE.6000604@sonymobile.com> <20150716094125.16cdda73@lwn.net> <1437063875.18768.59.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150717101151.5d5bc86d@lwn.net> <20150717133712.42c82add@gandalf.local.home> <20150717190223.GB1499@cloud> <20150717154326.6f129bc4@gandalf.local.home> <20150717202412.GA1856@cloud> <20150717163903.67747d86@gandalf.local.home> <20150717204856.GA2048@cloud> <20150717165501.62ed4e04@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: James Bottomley , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Dan Carpenter , Jason Cooper Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , > I.e. I might propose a a slightly controversial topic, going a bit the > other direction than the whole "motivating newcomers" discussion: how to > get rid of useless submissions that are slowing maintainers down? > Do we really have this issue? If we are encouraging more people to get involved in kernel contribution, we'll sure occasionally see some patches with little value, but I don't think we are suffering from this. And When we see a patch of this kind, it won't take us much time to tell the newbie why the patch isn't appropriate, and then he probably won't do this again. > Should we stop publishing all the statistics? I believe there is no > question that those are one of the primary drivers of useless submissions. > Once maintainers get DoSed by submissions of wrong and/or useless patches > that eat non-negligible amount of their time, we're in trouble. >