From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B2FE8B4 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seldrel01.sonyericsson.com (seldrel01.sonyericsson.com [37.139.156.2]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BC291AF for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55A7D73F.4020105@sonymobile.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 09:09:35 -0700 From: Tim Bird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Corbet References: <20150708114011.3a1f1861@noble> <2879113.fraeuJIr2M@avalon> <20150709193718.GD9169@vmdeb7> <20150710143641.GW4341@mwanda> <20150710160714.GL111846@vmdeb7> <20150710222351.GA28632@kroah.com> <20150711000034.GU111846@vmdeb7> <20150711001348.GA30675@kroah.com> <20150711055441.GA6316@sudip-PC> <20150715212043.775be5d2@gandalf.local.home> <20150716132551.GH4039@sirena.org.uk> <20150716094720.2bf9f5ac@gandalf.local.home> <55A7C7FE.6000604@sonymobile.com> <20150716094125.16cdda73@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20150716094125.16cdda73@lwn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Carpenter , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Jason Cooper Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 07/16/2015 08:41 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Seriously, this area is a minefield for new developers; it can be > discouraging to put together your first patch, carefully follow > everything found in SubmittingPatches, CodingStyle, SubmitChecklist, and > HOWTO, appease the checkpatch.pl beast, carefully run get_maintainer.pl > with the correct command-line options, and follow all the suggestions > provided by reddit, Phoronix and 4chan, only to be told that the patch > came in during the wrong phase of the moon and they really should have > known better. Here's just an anecdote to support this. There's a highly qualified developer at Sony I was talking to this week, who said that when he sees a bug in the mainline kernel, he usually just ignores it because the hassle-factor of submitting a patch is too high. -- Tim