From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F658B4 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seldrel01.sonyericsson.com (seldrel01.sonyericsson.com [37.139.156.2]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A189263 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55A7CEEB.4080405@sonymobile.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 08:34:03 -0700 From: Tim Bird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle References: <20150710143641.GW4341@mwanda> <20150710160714.GL111846@vmdeb7> <20150710222351.GA28632@kroah.com> <20150711000034.GU111846@vmdeb7> <20150711001348.GA30675@kroah.com> <20150711055441.GA6316@sudip-PC> <20150715212043.775be5d2@gandalf.local.home> <20150716132551.GH4039@sirena.org.uk> <20150716094720.2bf9f5ac@gandalf.local.home> <55A7C7FE.6000604@sonymobile.com> <20150716151251.GF20901@linux-mips.org> In-Reply-To: <20150716151251.GF20901@linux-mips.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Carpenter , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Jason Cooper Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 07/16/2015 08:12 AM, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 08:04:30AM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > >> On 07/16/2015 06:47 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote: >>> One of the issues with newcomers coming to development of the Linux >>> kernel, is that every maintainer is different. We should be trying >>> harder to let people know what we prefer. Every maintainer expects >>> something different, but it's up to the maintainer to explicitly let >>> others know what they want. You can't expect everyone to read your mind. >> >> I agree with this completely. When you switch systems (which I've done >> something like 5 times in the last 2 years), you are essentially a newbie >> in that new system. >> >> How about putting some notes in the MAINTAINER file for things like >> this, that some get_maintainer.pl option could show? >> We could use a I: prefix, for "Instructions:" (only because 'N:' >> is already used.) >> >> I'm not sure the what types of per-maintainer differences would be good to >> list, but at least the two described here would be good: >> - ping delay preference >> - ping style (whole patch or just an alert) preference >> >> I think there may be some other things that we could recommend, but maybe >> it would be good to use free-form instructions for a while and see what >> patterns emerge. >> >> A side benefit of this would be that maintainers could see what their >> colleagues are doing, which might help spread knowledge of useful >> practices. > > Haven't systems like patchwork mostly obsoleted ping emails? $ grep ^[A-Z][^:] MAINTAINERS | wc -l 1389 $ grep ^Q: MAINTAINERS | wc -l 102 I think it's safe to say that less than 10% of sub-systems use patchwork (or at least are documented to use patchwork). -- Tim