From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B40ABC4 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seldrel01.sonyericsson.com (seldrel01.sonyericsson.com [37.139.156.2]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E582CAA for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 15:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <559D44AF.9090406@sonymobile.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 08:41:35 -0700 From: Tim Bird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <1435997161.3324.33.camel@infradead.org> <20150707143447.6f345e91@gandalf.local.home> <1436298670.3324.107.camel@infradead.org> <20150707200002.GA8315@kroah.com> <1436300310.3324.115.camel@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <1436300310.3324.115.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL enforcement actions List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 07/07/2015 01:18 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2015-07-07 at 13:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> As those "efforts" are being driven by the developers of the kernel, I >> think that the developers involved would be the best to present this, >> not the SF Conservancy people. As you point out, the SFLC is just the >> lawyers being hired by the developers to do what they want them to do :) >=20 > A lot of those developers will be in the room too, of course. >=20 > But the "efforts" are being driven *by* Conservancy on *behalf* of > those developers who have asked Conservancy to do so. And I suspect > someone from Conservancy is better placed to give up-to-date > information about what's actually happening "on the ground". >=20 > The point is to get people in the room and have a direct discussion > without hearsay or misinformation =E2=80=94 and doing that *without* some= one > from Conservancy doesn't really make much sense. My experience with this is that you'll get one side (and perspective) of the compliance enforcement story, only. Companies involved in compliance "improvement" exercises simply will not comment on them, so it's not easy to tell if the remedies being requested are understood by all parties or not, and whether I'd agree with them. >>From my standpoint it would be useful to hear the Conservancy's stance on a few issues. -- Tim