From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D4CF927 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.zytor.com (terminus.zytor.com [198.137.202.10]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C8D02031D for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <540DF078.3030601@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:07:52 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: One Thousand Gnomes , Pavel Machek References: <53EAAC95.7080301@linaro.org> <20140823222640.GA1382@xo-6d-61-c0.localdomain> <20140908185544.621022b6@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140908185544.621022b6@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, lkml , John Stultz , "Joseph S. Myers" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] (Resend) 2038 Kernel Summit Discussion Fodder List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 09/08/2014 10:55 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: >> Today, there's good chance there's linux somewhere in your car. (Dashboard, >> entertainment system). People like to keep cars from 1910 working, and I suspect >> that is not going to change. >> >> So yes, in 2038 people will be running 32bit linux. >> >> Whether there will be people putting 32bit linux into new devices is a question, >> but I suspect answer is still yes. > > I'm currently trying to add 64bit longlong support to an initial PCC 8086 > compiler port so I can fix that for some 16bit projects 8-) > > My 8bit machines are mostly 2038 safe already. > Back in 1985 I decided to Y2K-test my ABC800 8-bit computer. It passed (they had implemented a windowed year solution which breaks in 2070 or 2080, as I recall.) -hpa