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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] No more module removal -- Unconference track
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:24:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53FC1A11.1000700@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1408251304260.2992@pobox.suse.cz>

(2014/08/25 20:05), Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> 
>> What I found is that the module unloading involving 2 stop_machine()s 
>> for each module removing. It must not be needed. However, since the 
>> module's ref-counter is over-optimized for BIG SMP machine, we can't 
>> remove it without replacing it. But it means some performance regression 
>> can happen on such big-scale SMP machines (not the laptop nor normal smp 
>> machine).
> 
> Is that really a big problem in practice?
> 
> I.e. are there valid usecase scenarios where module load / unload should 
> be considered a hotpath where every ms of performance would matter?

There could be. However, in usual usecases, I guess people will not want
to unload it. Systemtap or something "additional" module users will
need to unload modules. (kpatch could be one of them, but I also think
no one want to remove applied patches anyway.)

I just tried to show that the kmodule unload is the one who uses
stop_machine heavily but it is not necessary :)

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-19 14:48 Theodore Ts'o
2014-08-19 14:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-08-19 15:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-08-19 15:40     ` Dan Carpenter
2014-08-19 15:47       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-08-19 16:09         ` Dan Carpenter
2014-08-19 16:34           ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-08-19 16:59           ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-19 17:19           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-08-19 16:43         ` David Woodhouse
2014-08-19 17:13           ` Grant Likely
2014-08-19 17:23             ` David Woodhouse
2014-08-19 15:54     ` Takashi Iwai
2014-08-25 11:01   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-25 11:05     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-08-26  5:24       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2014-08-27 23:05         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-08-26 21:39   ` David Howells
2014-08-26 21:45     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-08-27  6:43       ` Masami Hiramatsu

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