From: Daniel Phillips <d.phillips@partner.samsung.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Dealing with 2038
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 14:17:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53695159.60107@partner.samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140506201959.GD5012@thunk.org>
On 05/06/2014 01:19 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 08:20:47PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> Medical equipment (and I assume military, which is often in the same
>> category) is probably a big thing. I remember we had a big discussion
>> about a product at a former employer when a customer asked for support
>> beyond 2038. I think we ended up saying that the hardware is fine but
>> no supported distro would handle this.
> The question for the kernel summit is what sort of solutions can we
> suggest where we as kernel developers could help provide a solution
> for this problem?
>
> If the answer is "the kernel is fine (or could be trivially made
> fine)" but the problems are all at the glibc and/or distro level, then
> it's a problem, but I'm not sure we'd be able to make progress on
> solving it in this venue.
>
Hi Ted,
At minimum, the collective kernel voice has a great soapbox to stand on,
it would not make sense to waste that, and no doubt there will always be
more that could be done on the kernel side. For example, the kernel has
a definitive vantage point to witness all 32 bit timestamps coming in
and going out with the sign bit set. Perhaps some logging mechanism
would be helpful in setting up audit systems to use in sandbox testing
and triage on Jan 1, 2038, with a view to clawing back the sign bit.
Regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-05 18:33 John Stultz
2014-05-05 19:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-05 20:53 ` josh
2014-05-05 23:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 2:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06 2:21 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-06 12:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 17:53 ` John Stultz
2014-05-06 18:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 20:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 20:33 ` josh
2014-05-06 20:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 22:06 ` John Stultz
2014-05-07 2:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-07 11:19 ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-05-07 17:28 ` John Stultz
2014-05-09 15:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-08 20:37 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-09 15:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-09 20:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 22:33 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10 0:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-10 1:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 12:18 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-15 17:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16 2:50 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-10 0:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 21:17 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2014-05-06 21:56 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-07 1:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2014-05-07 14:00 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-09 17:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06 1:25 ` Li Zefan
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