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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Dealing with 2038
Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 11:33:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5367D989.1000504@linaro.org> (raw)

I'd like to discuss some thoughts on how to address the 2038 issues on
32bit architectures. This is important, as vendors are still producing
lots of 32bit hardware, which may very well have 24+ year lifespans
(think industrial control applications, security systems).  NetBSD and
OpenBSD have recently broken their ABI, converted their time_t to long
long, to properly address this. So I'd like to discuss thoughts on how
Linux can do similar despite our no-breaking-userspace rules, after all,
one way or another (almost) all of Linux's 32bit architectures are
terminally broken past 2038.

Thomas (who I don't think can attend due to other plans) and I have had
some small talks about this and we have different initial preferences on
how to go about solving things, so I'd like to present the pros and cons
of the current options we're stewing on, open the discussion up to other
ideas, and see if there's a consensus on which way to go.

thanks
-john

             reply	other threads:[~2014-05-05 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 18:33 John Stultz [this message]
2014-05-05 19:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-05 20:53 ` josh
2014-05-05 23:20   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06  2:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06  2:21     ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-06 12:57       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 17:53         ` John Stultz
2014-05-06 18:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 20:19             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 20:33               ` josh
2014-05-06 20:50                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 22:06                   ` John Stultz
2014-05-07  2:07                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-07 11:19                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-05-07 17:28                       ` John Stultz
2014-05-09 15:05                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-08 20:37                       ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-09 15:10                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-09 20:39                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 22:33                             ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10  0:16                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-10  1:44                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 12:18                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-15 17:20                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16  2:50                                     ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-10  0:19                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 21:17               ` Daniel Phillips
2014-05-06 21:56                 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-07  1:56                   ` Daniel Phillips
2014-05-07 14:00         ` Grant Likely
2014-05-09 17:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06  1:25 ` Li Zefan

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