From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F219B1 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 13:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com (mail-ee0-f45.google.com [74.125.83.45]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C949720221 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 13:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id d17so3866726eek.18 for ; Sat, 03 May 2014 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5364F0FF.5080206@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 15:37:03 +0200 From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Jones , Ben Hutchings References: <20140502164438.GA1423@jtriplet-mobl1> <20140502171103.GA725@redhat.com> <1399051229.2202.49.camel@dabdike> <20140502173309.GB725@redhat.com> <5363E8E1.9030806@zytor.com> <20140502193314.GA24108@thunk.org> <20140502194935.GA9766@redhat.com> <1399063518.24523.43.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> <20140502210308.GB13536@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20140502210308.GB13536@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Josh Boyer , Sarah Sharp , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg KH , Julia Lawall , Darren Hart , Dan Carpenter Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 05/02/2014 11:03 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:45:18PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 15:49 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: [...] > > > It's this "not used by every user" code that tends to scare me, because > > > it's written with 1-2 well behaved bits of userspace in mind, which > > > usually means "has so many unchecked corner cases it's not even funny" > > [...] > > > > Since Michael often seems to be the one testing those corner cases while > > writing documentation, it seems like you're getting back to the old > > issue of whether lack of documentation should be a blocker for adding > > new system calls. > > That, and test cases. Form my point of view, test cases and documentation go hand in glove (see my last mail). Hmmm -- this almost starts to smell like a topic to revisit at Ksummit. Thanks, Michael -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/