From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09307918 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 18:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C712201A2 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 18:20:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Arnd Bergmann To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 20:20:47 +0200 Message-ID: <5252732.F3YIzHDqI3@wuerfel> In-Reply-To: <536921B5.8090100@linaro.org> References: <5367D989.1000504@linaro.org> <20140506125741.GB17586@thunk.org> <536921B5.8090100@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: John Stultz Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Dealing with 2038 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tuesday 06 May 2014 10:53:57 John Stultz wrote: > On 05/06/2014 05:57 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > I suspect the only real way of dealing with the problem for 32-bit > > architectures is to consider doing a major version bump for all shared > > libraries, and for a while, 32-bit distributions might have to ship > > two versions of all of the more popular shared libraries. > ... > > OTOH, if the main issue is "industrial control and security systems" > > as stated in the original problem description,, I very much doubt they > > would need GNOME shared libraries. :-) > > Well, there's also things like in-car-infotainment systems (which would > annoy future car collectors should they stop working), which may require > GUI toolkits. But I suspect the most problematic cases will be embedded > systems in the literal sense of "embedded in the wall". Medical equipment (and I assume military, which is often in the same category) is probably a big thing. I remember we had a big discussion about a product at a former employer when a customer asked for support beyond 2038. I think we ended up saying that the hardware is fine but no supported distro would handle this. Arnd