Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH-TOPIC] Review - Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.

[Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>]

On 9/26/18 11:19 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 26-09-18 09:54:00, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 16:15 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
>>>> as a maintainer, I'm happy to try to police
>>>> civility by calling adverse behaviours out on the list
>>>
>>> Good for you, but that's not necessarily something others
>>> might want to do.  Nor should have to.
>>
>> I think the only way any code of conduct is ever going to work is
>> top-down, with maintainers leading by example, both in terms of
>> following and enforcing the CoC. It's not going to work bottom-up, nor
>> with everyone always involving the TAB directly. For the most part, it's
>> just a matter of explicitly asking people to be civil anyway.
>>
>> This may well be the biggest reason the "code of conlict" did not
>> succeed, despite the large number of acks.
> 
> One thing I'm missing: Did "code of conflict" really fail? I find the areas
> which I follow (filesystems and surroundings) pretty civil but so they were
> even before "code of conflict"... So maybe I miss some events?
> 
I can only agree here.
So far I haven't had any evidence of a massive breakdown of civility, 
and in fact nothing which would warrant extra steps.
Plus it would really help to figure out which _specific_ problem the CoC 
is actually trying to solve; this would help to focus the entire discussion.

Cheers,

Hannes
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