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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Device error handling / reporting / isolation
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 03:09:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4433093.MSzoqdJDMf@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399666748.2166.68.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On Friday 09 May 2014 13:19:08 James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 20:13 +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> 
wrote:
> > > I'm interested in a related topic: we should systematically use IOMMUs
> > > and similar hardware features to protect against buggy or *malicious*
> > > hardware devices
> > 
> > Defending against buggy hardware is interesting from a RAS perspective.
> > You don't want a card with a stuck address line scribbling on memory
> > that you didn't want it to touch.
> 
> But for a laptop or desktop kernel, how far do we want to go?  In
> theory, once the iommu is turned on, it corrals the device, since access
> to non programmed addresses (those without IOTLB entries) produces a
> fault.  Is there anything extra we need to do beyond turning on the
> IOMMU?

We need a mechanism to correctly report and handle the IOMMU faults, otherwise 
a misbehaving device could generate interrupt storms and cause a denial of 
service.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-10  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-08 12:37 David Woodhouse
2014-05-08 18:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-05-08 20:00   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08 19:56 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09  8:55   ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-09 11:31     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-14  1:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-09 17:48 ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-09 17:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-05-09 18:08     ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-14  1:40   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-09 18:05 ` Will Deacon
2014-05-12 15:03   ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-09 19:37 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-09 19:44   ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-09 19:53   ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-09 20:13     ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-09 20:19       ` James Bottomley
2014-05-10  1:09         ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2014-05-11 22:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-12 15:07             ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-12 15:35               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-12 16:16                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-12 16:28                   ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-12 16:59                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 17:15                       ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-12 17:11                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-12 17:40                       ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-13 10:06                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-12 17:04                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-13 11:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-13 17:25                       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-14  1:50                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-14 20:09                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-15  1:08                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-12 16:26                 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-12 14:58         ` Joerg Roedel
2014-05-13 14:37         ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-14  1:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-14  1:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-14  1:42   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-14  1:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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