From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3634617A2EA for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2026 07:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772954482; cv=none; b=q+fFTa+eNRsSxKK14ps2HofhzJmCf7rO6+RRkLcMxQp36qX4t684LOMOdX9CS8CXKppmVpc7srcY4XRlQVMVsg+pneXCpo2PE34zInY+uZ2gpzE9GN+YKi4n5HaeLWe0M0i56iVkdtThM63KYi9qIOkeFddNJT2s86wy1L36T64= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772954482; c=relaxed/simple; bh=aWoMRDB2Nw3q20V2kcIj5+rBJl8KAtOx1S8t7HGwJL0=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=dM7uystdgr5ZOI77YlkAZ/T322jgc6kjVVYQQVRWzi1cwyABzge/jaPPGB+TL+72uuJL+XpSw+b+O35WBJXgX/zWSjkMc0n4QIiV2p8VkNgEELhdPPYDouf41TWLyvsT/cemQsYIR6J5OXlN9yio+p7J3SP7AjD1/ByKrs9XZiQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=lUWbkaeA; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="lUWbkaeA" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0D6EC116C6; Sun, 8 Mar 2026 07:21:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1772954481; bh=aWoMRDB2Nw3q20V2kcIj5+rBJl8KAtOx1S8t7HGwJL0=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=lUWbkaeAcmes8uIkPP6L5rpB9yhJ/6ifFlUVdKk/mm9jMoH/5TW4Ayi1fe20TET3Q xFoKLPn7z1Zy1HDDSjsT+8qK9AoomOvZci+14mFi+2oS9IXE29YTqX/oW4l9mTH4B7 KuCRST/5nbx0OYDLIqaeaL7FkGLc/+XXdF0AiYNeFIVLisk9onbecO7lTW3CD/yqMF qX+FBe2H69Jq8XDLBo79yC/3cIUr34pghSS6gShqvfYfr1k5hkZQe0GSiGZGIsQKz/ zvLD206zbB24YFXQA0ORE0vTmJjZUr+NZ5h13e48SsChpo2yIgB9heZPUlG3rlRR81 IbXTxA4O75dEA== Message-ID: <3dd58b76-7461-4e8b-9dc6-a936a41d8faa@kernel.org> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2026 08:21:12 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] To: Greg KH Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <6e0c8c00-4efe-432a-92e8-c51aa15b4a34@kernel.org> <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: =?UTF-8?Q?Uwe_Kleine-K=C3=B6nig?= In-Reply-To: <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------SK43T7JPQyarnYlQJksG19LP" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------SK43T7JPQyarnYlQJksG19LP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------QkbO1pA6tLaAxQPZqNnB90r0"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Uwe_Kleine-K=C3=B6nig?= To: Greg KH Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Message-ID: <3dd58b76-7461-4e8b-9dc6-a936a41d8faa@kernel.org> Subject: Re: Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <6e0c8c00-4efe-432a-92e8-c51aa15b4a34@kernel.org> <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> In-Reply-To: <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> --------------QkbO1pA6tLaAxQPZqNnB90r0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Greg, On 1/23/26 10:29, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 10:19:56AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-K=C3=B6nig wrote: >> On 12/10/25 05:48, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: >>> ## Web of Trust work >>> >>> There is an ongoing work to replace our home-grown web of trust solut= ion (that >>> does work but has important bottlenecks and scaling limitations) with= >>> something both more distributed and easier to maintain. We're working= with >>> OpenSSF to design the framework and I hope to present it to the commu= nity in >>> the next few months. >> >> the current home-grown solution is https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs= /kernel/pgpkeys.git/, right? >> >> I wonder what the bottlenecks and scaling limitations are that you men= tion. >> >> Is there some info available already now about the path you (and OpenS= SF) intend to propose? >=20 > There will be a presentation about this in February at a conference and= > hopefully it will be made public then as the work is still ongoing. The event was https://lfms26.sched.com/event/2ETT5/the-first-person-linux-kernel-mainta= iner-verification-project-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel-maintainer-dani= ela-barbosa-lf-decentralized-trust-glenn-gore-affinidi , right? I don't find a way to profit from what was presented there, do you know if there is video coverage? Or is there other material about the proposal? 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