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8mT2Eh9SkH+YVOmaKsajgZgrBxA7fWmGoxXswEVxJIFj3vW7yNc0C5HaUdYa5iGOMs4kg2ht4s7yy7NRQuh7BifWjo6BQ6k4S1H+6axZucxhSV1L6zN9d+lr3Xo/vy1unzA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.3 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 2026-01-10 at 15:52 +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 09:25:36AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > > I just don't think the word "slop" should be used, because while it > > may be very clear to you, and may be clearly defined in some > > communities, me, I'm just guessing what you mean by it. >=20 > https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/word-of-the-year Just because it's the word of the year this year doesn't mean people will remember what it means even after a few years. "Rawdog" was the OED word of the year in 2024 ... that's losing its resonance and who of the under 30 crowd knows what the 2000 word of the year "chad" means?=20 The point of the formulation I proposed (without mentioning slop) was to be generic and retain its meaning over time. Regards, James