From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.linuxfoundation.org (smtp2.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.36]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163B340C for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2017 21:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0213.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.213]) by smtp2.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17E6A1DAA2 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2017 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by smtpgrave04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B09B1800C0F7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2017 15:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:18:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1188050494.22035.1500673557010.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> References: <20170629195537.534445e7@gandalf.local.home> <20170630025852.xjoif3aai6rny5a2@ast-mbp> <20170629230251.02f380cb@gandalf.local.home> <6AE378F0-42F7-45DE-9F3C-050A5019A1E8@fb.com> <20170630142956.7e0cb2d6@gandalf.local.home> <20170630143030.305b68a0@gandalf.local.home> <658A3F80-5E48-4EC4-A591-E3783AD3DADC@fb.com> <20170706151008.24addd2b@gandalf.local.home> <1188050494.22035.1500673557010.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Mathieu Desnoyers From: Steven Rostedt Message-ID: <37EF4BA7-FC04-4580-8AD8-28E4C384DA88@goodmis.org> Cc: Tom Zanussi , ksummit-discuss , Josef Bacik , Julien Desfossez , Peter Zijlstra , daolivei , bristot , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Pulling away from the tracing ABI quicksands List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Actually, Brendan Gregg got enough proposals together and there will be a t= racing MC at Plumbers this year=2E -- Steve On July 21, 2017 5:45:57 PM EDT, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > > >----- On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:10 PM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis=2Eorg wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:37:59 +0000 >> Josef Bacik wrote: >>=20 >>> [ I forgot to add Tom to the Cc list=2E Sending again=2E ] >>>=20 >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:29:56 -0400 >>> Steven Rostedt wrote: >>>=20 >>> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:24:12 +0000 >>> > Josef Bacik wrote: >>> > =20 >>> > > Yup I=E2=80=99ll start bugging people to submit talk proposals, st= arting >with you! I=E2=80=99ll >>> > > put up my proposal in the next day or two, I think Brendan has >something he=E2=80=99s >>> > > going to talk about=2E Thanks, >>> >=20 >>> > I shouldn't have used the term "talk", as it really is all about >>> > discussions=2E In fact, if you need more than one slide, you have >too >>> > many=2E >>> >=20 >>> > That said, I could probably come up with a few things, starting >with >>> > this trace event issue=2E But it will be pointless if Peter Zijlstra >and >>> > Mathieu are not there=2E >>> >=20 >>> > But having ideas about dynamic fields in tracepoints is always >>> > interesting=2E Not to mention talking about Tom Zanussi's latest >>> > histogram work=2E It may be pretty much completed, but I would like >to >>> > discuss where we go from there=2E >>> >=20 >>> > One last thing=2E I don't want to have too many responsibilities, as >I'm >>> > on the LPC program committee and I need to make sure I have time >to >>> > fulfill any action items I'm responsible for during the >conference=2E >>> > =20 >>>=20 >>> Yeah plumbers is a weird venue for tracing, I always hope that we >are >>> going to have people like Brendan or other sysadmin-y people show up >>> and say =E2=80=9Cthis is what sucks about tracing, please fix it=E2=80= =9D, and then >>> we can go fix it=2E It doesn=E2=80=99t really seem to happen that way= tho, >and >>> for things like tracing ABI there just aren=E2=80=99t the right people= in >the >>> room to have that kind of discussion=2E My proposal was just going to >>> be a laundry list of things that would make my life easier, but it >>> doesn=E2=80=99t really warrant a full micro-conference to listen to me= bitch >>> for an hour=2E If it turns out nobody else has much to talk about >then >>> we can just declare tracing is feature complete and we can talk >about >>> something else ;)=2E Thanks, >>>=20 >>=20 >> At this rate, I'm guessing that Tracing is not going to be on the >> Plumbers' agenda=2E > >Since the Kernel Summit and Plumbers do not seem like a good fit to >have >discussions involving both tracing end users and developers, we have >adapted the Tracing Summit schedule to have half day of the usual >presentations, and half day dedicated to such discussions=2E Steven has >volunteered to run the discussion part=2E > >The Tracing Summit will take place on October 27th in Prague, on the >Friday right after Kernel Summit=2E > >So if you have tracing topics that you would like to discuss at this >event, the CFP/CFD and all the information are available here: > >http://tracingsummit=2Eorg/wiki/TracingSummit2017 > >Thanks, > >Mathieu --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E