Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Pulling away from the tracing ABI quicksands

[Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>]

Actually, Brendan Gregg got enough proposals together and there will be a tracing MC at Plumbers this year.

-- Steve


On July 21, 2017 5:45:57 PM EDT, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>
>
>----- On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:10 PM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:37:59 +0000
>> Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> [ I forgot to add Tom to the Cc list. Sending again. ]
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:29:56 -0400
>>> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:24:12 +0000
>>> > Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com> wrote:
>>> >   
>>> > > Yup I’ll start bugging people to submit talk proposals, starting
>with you!  I’ll
>>> > > put up my proposal in the next day or two, I think Brendan has
>something he’s
>>> > > going to talk about.  Thanks,
>>> > 
>>> > I shouldn't have used the term "talk", as it really is all about
>>> > discussions. In fact, if you need more than one slide, you have
>too
>>> > many.
>>> > 
>>> > That said, I could probably come up with a few things, starting
>with
>>> > this trace event issue. But it will be pointless if Peter Zijlstra
>and
>>> > Mathieu are not there.
>>> > 
>>> > But having ideas about dynamic fields in tracepoints is always
>>> > interesting. Not to mention talking about Tom Zanussi's latest
>>> > histogram work. It may be pretty much completed, but I would like
>to
>>> > discuss where we go from there.
>>> > 
>>> > One last thing. I don't want to have too many responsibilities, as
>I'm
>>> > on the LPC program committee and I need to make sure I have time
>to
>>> > fulfill any action items I'm responsible for during the
>conference.
>>> >   
>>> 
>>> Yeah plumbers is a weird venue for tracing, I always hope that we
>are
>>> going to have people like Brendan or other sysadmin-y people show up
>>> and say “this is what sucks about tracing, please fix it”, and then
>>> we can go fix it.  It doesn’t really seem to happen that way tho,
>and
>>> for things like tracing ABI there just aren’t the right people in
>the
>>> room to have that kind of discussion.  My proposal was just going to
>>> be a laundry list of things that would make my life easier, but it
>>> doesn’t really warrant a full micro-conference to listen to me bitch
>>> for an hour.  If it turns out nobody else has much to talk about
>then
>>> we can just declare tracing is feature complete and we can talk
>about
>>> something else ;).  Thanks,
>>> 
>> 
>> At this rate, I'm guessing that Tracing is not going to be on the
>> Plumbers' agenda.
>
>Since the Kernel Summit and Plumbers do not seem like a good fit to
>have
>discussions involving both tracing end users and developers, we have
>adapted the Tracing Summit schedule to have half day of the usual
>presentations, and half day dedicated to such discussions. Steven has
>volunteered to run the discussion part.
>
>The Tracing Summit will take place on October 27th in Prague, on the
>Friday right after Kernel Summit.
>
>So if you have tracing topics that you would like to discuss at this
>event, the CFP/CFD and all the information are available here:
>
>http://tracingsummit.org/wiki/TracingSummit2017
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mathieu

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