From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BF5D2F5478 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755012252; cv=none; b=MhyYKENw/UYUb6tnytwUK0OsgGzPyH2i0WOZXiFWxcTGQodWQ8FpnM6Hc/UaY/7dFJ0FYdh+CwPGkPLrfxA/GIEnomTQnrEYQNUotcNcCdHnCAq8eWCqcnbzxBU0CkqLCwwZTgSI3d+7+bzXDa+pS7spxxgeI/VJwploRM7NZXI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755012252; c=relaxed/simple; bh=YZkldFcLZXUfaiZdHTG0FNFJoXGSRnNhmDKbU8yKz4o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=PGFRlaeAkql9GiHIqKdcb7C6EaYu4of4nizevxBvP7HpeNHNyfyUfHxhtSUdkoqbwm10reVkMhECA13FvI/Qt6OvW9ytgmnK+k34Qo5AxYPAcVs4Kqr53nOsyT708Du2gkckj5bx3zlN2RCs2cHr+b3RL5tfDFGMqDQ9xjkFoLA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Bvbb+dr8; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Bvbb+dr8" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EA4BC4CEF0; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1755012252; bh=YZkldFcLZXUfaiZdHTG0FNFJoXGSRnNhmDKbU8yKz4o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Bvbb+dr8JQFjXNkicc0uRztvS+q/wXwhOoMkS1Hvyf3xPVQyH1Veg+CPDF3pJuLOz m9oM0VttHGDBoh+EROk9X5yzLyAYWxNpRyxQmYmc9BBc0BWwaceXPdhdsmu4sRXxuG sIcw4h1rl5Z66TC55Yz8HGetFPNkzaLMWRekeTWuUiGCkZbq3e20aLEjtmYxKKZMps sjaVrAxUpAgL/C+NDw6+afv6+6LmDGtHef6G1H0ACnResWGSZgfKyhW85TZ0lKOuP5 6BIJj3WPlFtzIgA5+Kjv+zJcPCRX51vsWHzzk+RF4k25opUbbxZLAnW2OqmKQ27sts BdKtkQDKAaQoA== Received: by paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A041CE0AB1; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 08:24:11 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Sasha Levin Cc: Steven Rostedt , Lorenzo Stoakes , Dan Carpenter , Julia Lawall , "H. Peter Anvin" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The role of AI and LLMs in the kernel process Message-ID: <3023b60f-69cf-4d77-b57e-c294d646daa7@paulmck-laptop> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <37BCAD5A-07C4-4119-89C2-D3A45C24DE18@zytor.com> <20250812103710.5faf83fc@gandalf.local.home> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 11:02:50AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:37:10AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > One thing I look forward to with AI is that it will likely help me debug my > > own code. I suspect it would be really good at reading my code and say > > "Hey Stupid! You forgot to free this value over here". And things like that. > > In other words, I trust AI to debug my code more than I can debug its code. > > I'm surprised that this isn't too common of a practice at this point. > Sure, AI will make mistakes, but I think that: > > 1. It's much better at reviewing rather than writing. > 2. Mistakes aren't critical (you'd review it yourself anyway). > 3. No legal issues. Ahem. Please do us all a favor, yourself included, and go count the number of lawsuits currently in flight on this topic. Thanx, Paul