From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8941AF7 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 10:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com [213.167.242.64]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A6412E for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 10:54:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Laurent Pinchart To: Joe Perches Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:55:08 +0300 Message-ID: <30174536.pKSdSEBCyq@avalon> In-Reply-To: References: <2795844.PlkHHhbf7z@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] New CoC and Brendan Eich List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi Joe, On Friday, 5 October 2018 13:45:01 EEST Joe Perches wrote: > On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 12:57 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > Only when the necessary discussions will have taken place, and a decision > > on how to address the concerns taken, should we then decide whether to > > fork or contribute upstream. > > It's not necessarily am either/or, nor is it > up to this downstream to decide for upstream. > > Upstream may or may not want to change to what > this community decides is best for itself. We agree on this, I should have been more precised and said that we could then device to submit proposals upstream if we deem them to be applicable, but there's certainly no guarantee that upstream would accept them. I also want to note that, while I believe our community should decide what is best for itself, there have been lots of work done on codes of conducts in the past, and it would seem equally erroneous to me to ignore that and think we can do better by ourselves with very little experience in the area. Discussing proposed changes with upstream has the potential to bring interesting feedback, even if upstream isn't interested in accepting the change proposals. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart