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a=lDsFUYplfJSyMvvfnmEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: -5Yd9C2voVdnhgcJPs1RkwgCwhb7Pt8e X-Proofpoint-GUID: -5Yd9C2voVdnhgcJPs1RkwgCwhb7Pt8e On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:25:23PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 08:26:41PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > > - Was the commit message of this patch generated in large part by an LLM > > (excluding non-native speakers using an LLM to simply assist writing it > > in english)? > > Easiest way to say that is probably to say "written by" and "translated > by". I think for all these things we should just talk about tooling > rather than specifically LLMs, as well as avoiding any rules lawyering > about how precisely a given tool is implemented it's probably useful to > know about tools whatever the technology. That's a great idea!! And agreed on language/rules lawyering, I think we have to have something _simple_ and robust at least to begin with. There are inevitably blurry lines everywhere with this stuff so I think we have to be pragmatic and as clear as we possibly can. We can always refine things later as we learn. Cheers, Lorenzo