From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 09:28:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260402-complex-ultraviolet-limpet-aea0bc@lemur> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260402130706.GA15407@macsyma-wired.lan>
On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 09:07:06AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 12:59:46AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > # git-bug
> >
> > The git-bug project aims to keep bug tracking integrated into the git
> > repository itself. It's not a new project -- it's been around for a while,
> > though its development has been advancing in spurts. The fundamentals are
> > sound and the design is robust. It's an active project with ongoing
> > development:
>
> The documentation from git-bug is not great from the perspective of
> someone who is trying to understand the security properties of the
> system. But after looking at the architecture documents, I *think*
> this is how it works. Please correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps git-bug
> can improve their architecture docs?
Yes, I can totally relate to that sentiment, but "scant docs" is definitely
not a problem unique to this project. :)
> 1) A separate git repository is used for the bug store it's not the
> same git repo as the project where the project's sources are stored.
> (Your use of "the git repro" in your first paragraph made me made my
> eyebrows --- *surely* we wouldn't put the bug tracking information in
> linux.git, right?
Right, let me clarify this. I don't expect that we'd be keeping *any* kernel
bugs in torvalds/linux.git. Kernel development happens on a subsystem level
and especially bugs are rarely relevant across the tree, so, in my mind, bug
tracking would be done per-subsystem. They can either use their own fork of
the kernel for this, or they can use a dedicated repo just for bugs.
E.g.:
pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mysubsystem/linux.git:refs/bugs/
pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mysubsystem/bugs.git:refs/bugs/
You can definitely keep the bugs in your main subsystem tree, as they are in
their own ref and don't impact the heads in any way.
> 2) The primary way that git-bug seems to be focused is that "bridges"
> are used to sync status between some other bug tracker (such as
> github's issue tracker) and the git bug.
That part we don't really care about, though if subsystems like, they can
bridge to a GH/GL tracker. The primary purpose of git-bug, to me, is to keep
bug data a) transparent, b) capable of fully replicating so it doesn't get
gated at a single-point-of-failure.
> 3) You *can* create new bugs via the git-bug CLI, but this
> seems... weird, since only a person who has write access to a git repo
> can create a bug.
That's actually the whole point. Only subsystem maintainers would be able to
create a bug. To *report* a bug, the reporter would use an ingestion frontend
as I described -- bugs.kernel.org or similar that would pre-analyze the bug,
create a bug report and *then* send the report to maintainers. A bug report
doesn't automatically become a tracked bug in git-bug unless the maintainer
then imports that report into their bug-tracker.
So, yes, only the person who has write access to the repo can create a bug and
that's by design. Everyone else participates via discussions that are synced
to the bug entry whenever the maintainer runs "update" on the bug.
The git-bug entry is simply for lifecycle/tracking/triage purposes.
> Sure, anyone can fork the git repo, and create a
> bug in their local repo, but then in order to publish it, either (a)
> you have to have credentials so you can publish to some publically
> available bug tracker via a bridge, or (b) you can convince someone to
> pull from your repo to get your new bug --- but that is going to have
> to be a trusted source, because...
>
> 4) A git pull from some other bug tracking repo would completely
> bypass any kind of anti-SPAM or quality checking.
Not even part of the picture. The only pushing/pulling that happens is
between co-maintainers to their canonical repo and never from any other
source.
> This is much like
> how a maintainer might trust doing a git pull from a submaintainer,
> but the submaintainer has to be trusted, because doing code review
> before doing a pull is... possible, but it requires a human being to
> sanity check a pull and make look for red flags, but in general you
> only pull from trusted repositories. (Which is why I hate github PR's
> as being a security disaster in waiting for Jia Tan style attacks, but
> that's for another rant.)
Hopefully that clarifies this concern.
> 5) If there are any data format attacks where a maliciously crafted
> git-bug object can trigger some kind of security failure (SQL
> injection, shell quoting attacks, ... the mind boggles), which can be
> introduced either via a malicious issue that translates through a
> bridge, or via a "git pull" from a trusted repository, this could be
> used to attack either trusted infrastructure where the webui is
> hosted, or a developer's development machine behind their firewall.
This, too.
> This is making me super nervous.
>
> What am I missing? How can these concerns be mitigated?
Regards,
--
KR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-10 4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10 8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11 3:04 ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17 0:47 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37 ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23 9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23 9:29 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42 ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27 8:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02 ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08 7:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24 ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26 8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04 ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07 ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18 ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02 8:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 5:39 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 6:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03 6:48 ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03 9:04 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 8:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 9:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08 ` Jürgen Groß
2026-03-03 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44 ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 10:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28 ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17 7:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02 4:59 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2026-04-02 14:08 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51 ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
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