From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42AEE39E184 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2026 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1773842547; cv=none; b=YDriox1sxTp4bg3vQaYJQP90RcOR9tXLTQdhsXgENP/FKD9jVAS9+bK9/0diIE2HgSOj4kQaT8SALMQRJKcGs7kMKw+A3Vobayb5nU4BAJy4Dxrb5qFpqUOoZMf7PZ6xzyvc+FBZNMBkHYltUzrJcMBtqSEKHG+9xGty3qbVMis= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1773842547; c=relaxed/simple; bh=DWiT8V/zouGLZ3lD4gbQ/G338G6rE6w9oNsz5UzoTME=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=bvmQgAkieZktwa30NSdCzk+kE9nE9P0gdOYT0vdY9zOJls7tar9VgbnvRRNSS59MlaCxk60M/P9KGHsKahWI8LfgF9vsrsgySj7TBRpOygqUTHhHRad7R4gZbwuflq+PTlfm4vkfVGFXuPsVpeCJERycR/seYTI9U6MkQqpBQ/I= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=YADEVbSJ; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="YADEVbSJ" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 705BCC2BC87; Wed, 18 Mar 2026 14:02:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1773842546; bh=DWiT8V/zouGLZ3lD4gbQ/G338G6rE6w9oNsz5UzoTME=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=YADEVbSJBv4o995fPdyjNEItf/xqrUC0wGKq5tn+vR4/7IwCJPv7FF6eeN6ECoelZ MrhmUwwcJfc/RuA/nl4SeIpScfOfU3L1gzZy+B+rR7XUiuZTjvy5eQCh1YyxqJM47U iqW7Z/Gmx2N6vPFz5fXGnip9fbV1jQ60Ej5prbsE= Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:02:21 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Message-ID: <2026031819-traitor-reuse-db26@gregkh> References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <6e0c8c00-4efe-432a-92e8-c51aa15b4a34@kernel.org> <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> <3dd58b76-7461-4e8b-9dc6-a936a41d8faa@kernel.org> <2026030838-kissing-liftoff-a634@gregkh> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2026030838-kissing-liftoff-a634@gregkh> On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 11:24:20AM +0100, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 08:21:12AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > > Hello Greg, > > > > On 1/23/26 10:29, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 10:19:56AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > > >> On 12/10/25 05:48, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > >>> ## Web of Trust work > > >>> > > >>> There is an ongoing work to replace our home-grown web of trust solution (that > > >>> does work but has important bottlenecks and scaling limitations) with > > >>> something both more distributed and easier to maintain. We're working with > > >>> OpenSSF to design the framework and I hope to present it to the community in > > >>> the next few months. > > >> > > >> the current home-grown solution is https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/pgpkeys.git/, right? > > >> > > >> I wonder what the bottlenecks and scaling limitations are that you mention. > > >> > > >> Is there some info available already now about the path you (and OpenSSF) intend to propose? > > > > > > There will be a presentation about this in February at a conference and > > > hopefully it will be made public then as the work is still ongoing. > > > > The event was > > https://lfms26.sched.com/event/2ETT5/the-first-person-linux-kernel-maintainer-verification-project-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel-maintainer-daniela-barbosa-lf-decentralized-trust-glenn-gore-affinidi > > , right? > > > > I don't find a way to profit from what was presented there, do you know > > if there is video coverage? Or is there other material about the > > proposal? > > Yes, the session was recorded, but no, I do not know where the video is > just yet, sorry. And there was lots of links in the video and > presentation to the code repos, hopefully it will be uploaded soon... Ah, found it, and a long blog post that has links and text: https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/blog/decentralized-trust-infrastructure-at-lf-a-progress-report