From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63D8C3290B6 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772125466; cv=none; b=e7ju3jySl9il1DHEvd54valAVigpVF84kWoytyu8eaV+Ad/31pTyHvF+wEFt3VASQnqTopnmFUiFmMn30ziLTlNqTLUnYfT3IVrjXxkib0I3Dg0TvbqxVe4RWUN2x3D1WbMSa7acIT/PprSPH73cMmiz/5beljqjjAiMrGlT8TU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772125466; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ql/ryqnr7Ra//Kryt+L4SCW65ItqbKIb4ZDIJAvpgew=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References: Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=O+YLliK4IA6j9/xdKlV8BdZ0NiRnhewH07/sywFH41QviViusqvqqzqMo+XkveOmY99p7sSUyPo6FzFVju4YTo9OfQot+8XoRG8mEawGl5QaiHNKFqcu8GLL9HBXzEwoOEyVPa7OFwb4tg0kubXWf0rJoQonnKuni2Lj3NRwgJE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux-foundation.org header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.b=rToufFrH; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux-foundation.org header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.b="rToufFrH" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE26DC116C6; Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:04:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linux-foundation.org; s=korg; t=1772125466; bh=ql/ryqnr7Ra//Kryt+L4SCW65ItqbKIb4ZDIJAvpgew=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=rToufFrHPcObpH/hYBzy7TzmbUdAT1E4N6WHk2OXIqBKzMjZX01H6LGbS7rB+VFC6 PTnkuwhRCARPAe3a3w9wr+B34hJRe3Yk/4GFuXtS2K6it2+3SoBvvx4JX7fBSaZEky OXJK7P1NwAqPU6Vr5IdgzBKnwsaUGUvnkR5OyKak= Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 09:04:25 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Message-Id: <20260226090425.11bb585062783c0e1fcf0b32@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.8.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 09:44:32 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > * Create a new front page that tells users that they most likely are in > the wrong place. The text could look like this: I think it would be best, please. Bugzilla has never worked for us. > """ > Welcome! Note: The kernel.org bugzilla is slowly being decommissioned! > > This bug tracker is a kind of failed experiment, which at the same time > still is useful sometimes and thus for now kept alive. Due to this and > how vendors utilize the Linux kernel, you are most likely in the wrong > place to report your bug. > > To find the right place, check the Linux kernel's [MAINTAINERS > file](https://docs.kernel.org/process/maintainers.html). Most of the > time it will tell you to report bugs by email with some mailing lists in > CC. Bugs with all the kernel's modern graphics drivers, on the other > hand, [must be submitted to a Gitlab > instance](https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm) – and a small number of > subsystems want reports in issue trackers of dedicated Github projects > or this bug tracker. Perhaps point people at scripts/get_maintainer.pl Or heck, add a front-end to get_maintainer right here in this web page. People paste in a pathname and it spits back a bunch of email addresses. > For more details on this and reporting Linux kernel bugs in general, see > the [official step-by-step guide on reporting > issues](https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/reporting-issues.html#step-by-step-guide-how-to-report-issues-to-the-kernel-maintainers). > It covers all the important aspects, including one that is often missed: > > In case somebody else compiled your Linux kernel, you most likely have > to report bugs to said vendor – like Linux Mint, Red Hat, Ubuntu, or > SUSE. That is because the majority of the Linux developers only care for > bugs occurring with kernels built from Linux sources that are pristine > (aka "vanilla") or nearly so. Kernels using independently developed > kernel modules are therefore just as unsuitable for reporting bugs upstream.