From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C80DA332EAD for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769169532; cv=none; b=HoPBGiHmfw6hKaJ0FMUu7nNtvRo9kAbmylq3Xkd9Ot8Uu+VkeQOEhtWw2mNfJudsoU/6pljmVjAif1bkRppUS/SymkaqaxztDuFmDuWk1AIDktZdLKT0zgFvFnSPraLuQTOXOIJxYe2NL/EexCwh2mZHzwLhsuoQEGSka93NENU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769169532; c=relaxed/simple; bh=6l4UMo2KZ7yCPHncux5ATkI+SXvnSX/OGiBUoGbzsDc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=qQ4XUvUR2BIWkLl4smL8owWCliMXEGU0TAaRq4JhQk4FyEj09bUVtWsfht5pDshDFBIJozRvnTqUjiFdV90CAZNH2cPi8Fz4qDN/APV0HHUkR5jEv5Zi03qhDG9SH3pDSywmYRbc2B14FALOeE9k7yGrQRovv3R+L7wrjuoSXAM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=RwEMHZwN; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="RwEMHZwN" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5ECEC116D0; Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:58:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1769169532; bh=6l4UMo2KZ7yCPHncux5ATkI+SXvnSX/OGiBUoGbzsDc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=RwEMHZwNgAgm63RrMGT+i5momv2PI5iJ00tJET4/+q9V1QntbW/wZw0YxjkrigVHJ MIas9Gobz771VIcoTFiN297B22LD974uRxYijTwgYbhRYn/ov0Z3aqfeSY0jepKmqU AylHcoUN/HysTcTyqtqWo2dC4y+hj4mosVtCqhMA= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:58:48 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Message-ID: <2026012320-tiptoeing-backspace-241b@gregkh> References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <6e0c8c00-4efe-432a-92e8-c51aa15b4a34@kernel.org> <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> <20260123124700.0ab2a954@foz.lan> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20260123124700.0ab2a954@foz.lan> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:47:00PM +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 10:29:28 +0100 > Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 10:19:56AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > > > Hello Konstantin, > > > > > > On 12/10/25 05:48, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > > > ## Web of Trust work > > > > > > > > There is an ongoing work to replace our home-grown web of trust solution (that > > > > does work but has important bottlenecks and scaling limitations) with > > > > something both more distributed and easier to maintain. We're working with > > > > OpenSSF to design the framework and I hope to present it to the community in > > > > the next few months. > > > > > > the current home-grown solution is https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/pgpkeys.git/, right? > > > > > > I wonder what the bottlenecks and scaling limitations are that you mention. > > > > > > Is there some info available already now about the path you (and OpenSSF) intend to propose? > > > > There will be a presentation about this in February at a conference and > > hopefully it will be made public then as the work is still ongoing. > > I got curious when I saw something about "First Person credentials" > at https://lfms26.sched.com/event/2ETT5?iframe=no that > "would begin with the Linux Kernel project" - and more importantly > how and when it would affect my duties. I guess I'd need to > refrain my curiosity until the end of Feb :-) Ideally it will not affect anything, just replace the use of gpg however you use it today for kernel work. thanks, greg k-h