From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0011.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97249274641 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2026 17:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769187622; cv=none; b=PXOI0GE7LdILhDt4FUGAGTP8njvFbAPMDRMoY3UF+Q/AHUeB2TsTWAO0Nosetc+DRryNa8i4EXyQ+HPSZTkdHmGuDCmLlDaji9GejT1BCieKFta6DebqrQ+94J7GPRo0tD4PlxVCMlSH3qGwj4NdGLKQFtH4goU6wkT/AH67PFY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769187622; c=relaxed/simple; bh=HpGe6RHmfi+5UCbociUObB9nIzpSU3gsT8sxpzh6xxQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FsujGEETruGMM9Z49yg2YbQyOMMEnqm5qF8Btq6SSq9CPqHgaODUcUP1RVv6oG2SFlhYgP8Jo+2zMNEQzQuOckhHBh2tuN9jOtBwZMKa02LmHB60TxMO829qlOVRmXca1ZIL0Jr1vjAmqkj1WXt+G7UbuH2+37EQkFsndavZzKc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf19.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B487B13B006; Fri, 23 Jan 2026 17:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B790620027; Fri, 23 Jan 2026 17:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:00:44 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: Joe Perches Cc: Greg KH , James Bottomley , Uwe =?UTF-8?B?S2xlaW5lLUvDtm5p?= =?UTF-8?B?Zw==?= , Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Message-ID: <20260123120044.6290c453@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <677cb7ad745541bdd38a5598d476af66ed2e7aeb.camel@perches.com> References: <20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur> <6e0c8c00-4efe-432a-92e8-c51aa15b4a34@kernel.org> <2026012340-cannot-spud-5d46@gregkh> <806a695eff99bd2eba935d0d5ada29cc29b31818.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <2026012340-wildlife-scratch-1efd@gregkh> <677cb7ad745541bdd38a5598d476af66ed2e7aeb.camel@perches.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.20.0git84 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout07 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B790620027 X-Stat-Signature: t6njk8yojwuij6fibfcg6h39pxgxocit X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX1958u0xPh1Vx/2Ih0Y6NMbRayCZCiHZdBk= X-HE-Tag: 1769187616-774543 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18IF+3hKCl12FPf3J3d2YPeXpGB0cnn0G/vDFrtzf9pZIpVBEMl6ukpwkqVZg/kPz5QkP8N1dpI7lwtJ9SCoIvAW5Kk0+FFUWDWoC2ScuFFcBchaLciFTNrIB/iY39rnm/jaiNAOWN4WuAmHbPYlvjoiwal3fXVpNfO2lPqYslLKRc/dpkaM2+Hsw0PmDfPOaglomS0M9siMW9NX8GwIjGSvU4MeMGQewS5afXn1c1qtZeHMZxvG669wuRcUgnGfmFSCcndbPH5M+/a7ZFI5OFBRNG5c7BC7TNBZ2WE3RXGQOEcTWskHDK7aw8e7Vf/M0CCwn2XDZRXAe7mHqV8tazDiBJ4A+u32+T1Whr+3Tg5tHlhz+qRmHAdU/U28+T3MaaIW41yDuPu1A== On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 08:42:51 -0800 Joe Perches wrote: > On Fri, 2026-01-23 at 17:33 +0100, Greg KH wrote: > > Surely you don't want us to be touting a bunch of vaporware at this > > point in time, right? > > By announcing it before showing it you _are_ touting it. Nah, I call this "Conference driven development". Where I submit talking about something that is vaporware which drives me to develop it before I give my talk about it. Then at the talk I learn more about better ways to update the feature and modify it before it gets in an upstream release. Although, I don't think there will be a lot of kernel folks at the Member Summit. -- Steve