From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0017.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2011D33C188 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2026 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.17 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768061248; cv=none; b=GiLsuhoVD6EWoeclUfESERPiITltEOibi4rSImb3NmG93pU8yrgT+Z1xzVNE2n91nNa82oHVUrbcxrLChyC/ySRFyjSH2+nFn5Gf8lxnjiDTe6KrwrnmemNCJtztnfb7FECpaxTw/XYzlhr6D1RowX36cvpC65X0L6jAKjJ5WTM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768061248; c=relaxed/simple; bh=gi1YWfNU+kIZij9E5Bmx90OlezzJtQ52D13+z96IONc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BusMtks8cw/qVxJlGs4jQWhpGcPPGIPL2vuZftT6bvluf/Kexg7gWTEXDXo3xmheM3dRwO5GYVxxJ18yv8JSkqNRKqKLEi7Q3RusLghYYIJ8gdGWhIXB9kljb4LCJgllb+jSfkkiVqF7duph3S8eQcMuJUJuL7vuwudCGWcloP8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.17 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf01.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30301B79D4; Sat, 10 Jan 2026 16:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 528B160010; Sat, 10 Jan 2026 16:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:07:10 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: James Bottomley Cc: Matthew Wilcox , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Lorenzo Stoakes , Dan Carpenter , "Liam R. Howlett" , Jens Axboe , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Kees Cook , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Miguel Ojeda , Luis Chamberlain , SeongJae Park , Dan Williams , NeilBrown , Theodore Ts'o , Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content Message-ID: <20260110110710.7f91bdd4@fedora> In-Reply-To: <39da84e891a8ccd4a17115ce6a399c2f6498e78f.camel@HansenPartnership.com> References: <85614f7f-f217-47e5-a9f7-0a012f6e6ecd@lucifer.local> <6e9cab54-7b66-45e9-af96-e52b3eba1034@intel.com> <711d9e37-6fe7-4783-8ac4-5269279bb9fe@kernel.dk> <3xf3f4b3vegssexoid746y7isuswwsgmac5hy2hm4ipisdcxaf@nbi67byycwj5> <0b9a8f99-5cc4-40e8-a0e6-4887d1e1a796@lucifer.local> <39da84e891a8ccd4a17115ce6a399c2f6498e78f.camel@HansenPartnership.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.51; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout07 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 528B160010 X-Stat-Signature: q9xbgbmqajmd6sp18zie86nfnd886yrq X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX1+aNXtAih8pU7virKfxoFPXi5+GN6syIeg= X-HE-Tag: 1768061232-652617 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18X6AOwOH2mzFb+HjXsHuayqeGaBRHpN0xf022qIDb7CYzhsYiK14quvuRYVw1iLQ698D4UQOOE9/uqULiRiJ3i1YjEKqyZ8DH+YmJyYqXrZuTQ5I9fuAZRP2z/jPjZ1rb4cjtdXSd5KeY66k8PPoo69hg3UCdatzRl33ev946hP/tEJpqZR7fh4rUHYRU03PwsoQ9BjfPPXijy3RF7F+0TcblhSpc5W2Qu4c7VzEwoisPQIlH0JngqDika5i8zsJOTDStd+O8GJOKErt7tQ6N2Se9FyPaoMPJXTowBpdwW2/dC0KwVQjs58Gr3Y07/ZwsWVXoblVEqRphlgfvKapSP/Ov7OSfJFhCRKosjnihRwJFPqG1HZXKnpmvNydBYPw1VL/aTfCIsPQ== On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:02:19 -0500 James Bottomley wrote: > On Sat, 2026-01-10 at 15:52 +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 09:25:36AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > > > I just don't think the word "slop" should be used, because while it > > > may be very clear to you, and may be clearly defined in some > > > communities, me, I'm just guessing what you mean by it. > > > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/word-of-the-year > > Just because it's the word of the year this year doesn't mean people > will remember what it means even after a few years. "Rawdog" was the > OED word of the year in 2024 ... that's losing its resonance and who of > the under 30 crowd knows what the 2000 word of the year "chad" means? > The point of the formulation I proposed (without mentioning slop) was > to be generic and retain its meaning over time. I agree with James here. "Slop" may be well known today, but it is still a slang word. It may easily lose its meaning in the future, and I don't think "slang" words should be used in the document. -- Steve