From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0016.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB89635CB86 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2026 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.16 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1767974857; cv=none; b=DOISATtvLJevq8ESmJRQhwEaUFUbWfxCKyYY4/MxyNfrGOsCMzJm7qLDxUmSmhCLtNjUKWQWO+O5G+rUddKNdNKx0+2YCq9yfq+U5EBnVXLxQS4WliUMvPHzdtBY37iRVYINxD5US4dWIxfLp+qrYY/xX6eycM0Scr7t8nzO0YY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1767974857; c=relaxed/simple; bh=pfnpiyHn27em+rvVc3b8E6XRaOyJ2DfcaVt+Ni9AwTY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p+InJC/I70gZdW8Wy4eALpWwOw+kTZ1MGTpDWaSrCJ+2CcQjVa5jkjJVTwz5luG/oYDpGvAPPIH/vMej/qwOFbeCPa1IJfZGb8CiQ4KEtxqCSWf3DQNPNBr+fOTpT1nzqNDM7VPqxE0DslLmjglu9UBmFWr00CVT5aadA3Z8o/A= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.16 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf02.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA89E1AB13C; Fri, 9 Jan 2026 16:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 259BA8000E; Fri, 9 Jan 2026 16:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 11:07:59 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: Laurent Pinchart , Dan Carpenter , "Liam R. Howlett" , Jens Axboe , Dave Hansen , James Bottomley , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Kees Cook , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Miguel Ojeda , Luis Chamberlain , SeongJae Park , Dan Williams , NeilBrown , Theodore Ts'o , Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content Message-ID: <20260109110759.036473ba@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <4a8256ae-04b4-4b4e-b638-5e4cbc2362c5@lucifer.local> References: <6e9cab54-7b66-45e9-af96-e52b3eba1034@intel.com> <711d9e37-6fe7-4783-8ac4-5269279bb9fe@kernel.dk> <3xf3f4b3vegssexoid746y7isuswwsgmac5hy2hm4ipisdcxaf@nbi67byycwj5> <0b9a8f99-5cc4-40e8-a0e6-4887d1e1a796@lucifer.local> <20260109085446.GA9782@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20260109105104.57d308f7@gandalf.local.home> <4a8256ae-04b4-4b4e-b638-5e4cbc2362c5@lucifer.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.20.0git84 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 259BA8000E X-Stat-Signature: xqdfc3n36b4aoqgahukggf3oaozeu1yi X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout05 X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX18X6Ot+mhU3NXqMBgmI7jIM34Ha4me4H8U= X-HE-Tag: 1767974848-41460 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX1/JcW6TqJePIxeAukzcrfKshoQimfd72E2HfI5ryg7SKB7i3S3UIDzocszh99uZzc89IGoa4KBdgbWLMnfLfMvQswIChgIobPDLLdZn2O75ZxVmYURtyOtlejwWa5z+tMsAKgs8hLGikI6MFQH3DG2vv0lUH00BvLhcuiheZBA4lUVYUKvVA/r4GFBBlfzCnoig6VC8eA/IKU/DQtih7bbExRaLT1jP2okFR+3b22WQFDwVXjA37sV8QCIYEvc69MWfSB0A3NLX+cyz8+ZAnGWFUt6SMMBJvOshh97dubkJMV1gQ7PV2B212q1L4eWloXzjw5zS4GyCur0ChB0T6FJo On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:55:01 +0000 Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > Sure to the above, but it seems (...?) you are ok with my addition to the > document which hopefully is tempered enough to provide the emphasis I'm > looking for (note I say - all tools - even if LLMs are the most obvious > exmaple) - without being so strident as to seem out of scope? Yes I liked the last example. As I stated, this discussion helped me understand the issues I had with what you wanted to add. I wanted this document to be just as applicable to checkpatch and sed scripts as it is to LLMs. My fear was it was becoming too focused on AI where those that are submitting checkpatch and coccinelle scripts will think this doesn't apply to them. -- Steve