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[80.230.31.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-47d7f4184e1sm154399065e9.4.2026.01.08.07.01.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Jan 2026 07:01:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 10:01:52 -0500 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" To: Julia Lawall Cc: James Bottomley , Lorenzo Stoakes , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Kees Cook , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Miguel Ojeda , Luis Chamberlain , SeongJae Park , Dan Williams , Steven Rostedt , NeilBrown , Theodore Ts'o , Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content Message-ID: <20260108095933-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20260106205105.4037716-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> <1e982055-47c2-43d1-a919-93b3e59f2ed0@lucifer.local> <93aadf2b-0df4-49eb-91fd-b401b44ce3af@sr71.net> <1c74353c-40de-4d0b-a517-92a94f8b4af8@lucifer.local> <6c71554c-4fa1-4b99-9d46-2f1a2ecc1b7f@intel.com> <611c4a95-cbf2-492c-a991-e54042cf226a@lucifer.local> <20260108085215-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <6041b4b8-303a-f12b-24ea-92b836b7a025@inria.fr> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6041b4b8-303a-f12b-24ea-92b836b7a025@inria.fr> X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-MFC-PROC-ID: 10TEPtGujQko1GadZk3kWLXzySEW8-cESYS6Tn4Fpco_1767884520 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 03:48:14PM +0100, Julia Lawall wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Jan 2026, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 08:17:09AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > +you are expected to understand and to be able to defend everything > > > > you > > > > +submit. If you are unable to do so, maintainers may choose to reject > > > > your > > > > +series outright. > > > > > > And I thing the addition would apply to any tool used to generate a > > > patch set whether AI or not. > > > > Exactly. I saw my share of "fix checkpatch warning" slop. This is no > > different. > > I guess that most maintainers can easily recognize a patch that was > motivated by checkpatch, Coccinelle, smatch etc. Then the review can be > informed by previous experience with the tool. Will the same be the case > for AI? Or does it not matter? > > julia It is not the issue that checkpatch motivated something. The issue is that a lot of people don't understand that "checkpatch complained" is not motivation enough to make a change. I expect this holds for all tools. -- MST