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Tsirkin" To: James Bottomley Cc: Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , Konstantin Ryabitsev , dan.j.williams@intel.com, Doug Anderson , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers Message-ID: <20251016121653-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <68ee73dcd10ee_2f89910075@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> <2025101448-overtake-mortality-99c8@gregkh> <68efd54da845e_2f89910071@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> <20251015-versed-active-silkworm-bb87bd@lemur> <2025101631-foyer-wages-8458@gregkh> <892a58917795bf5d29394bb5123dae2a6615ca08.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <892a58917795bf5d29394bb5123dae2a6615ca08.camel@HansenPartnership.com> X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-MFC-PROC-ID: AwNAYSh6KF5WWM87PgMDQrzFX2zHr2VyeDYAabcamuk_1760631713 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 07:54:01AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2025-10-16 at 08:57 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 12:17:27PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 12:15, Linus Torvalds > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > (The above script is "tested" in that I verified that yes > > > > > > .. premature 'hit send' situation. That should have said > > > > > >  ..that yes] I verified that it superficially works, but didn't do > > > anything exhaustive. > > > > > > It was obviously meant as a "look, you can do things like this", > > > not as a real fully fleshed out solution. > > > > So, to summarize all of this, you are suggesting that maintainers: > > - don't automatically include Link: tags when they don't > > touch a > >   patch and apply it directly from the email as `b4 dig` > > will be > >   able to find the patch. > > - if a maintainer does change a patch, add the Link: tag so > > that > >   people can find the original patch when looking it up > > later. > > > > Is that correct? > > > > If so, ugh, that just raised the workload of all of us maintainers as > > now we have to remember to do that second step manually (or through > > the new git hook, which will NOT work without a network connection so > > no applying patches from planes or trains). > > I agree with all the complexity. So why don't we simply have git am > add message-id to the commit header if it exists in the patch? That > way every b4 generated commit will have a message-id header. No-one > will ever see it unless they ask for the --pretty=raw (which is what > tools can do, so they'll all just work) and it is completely mindless > so everyone always knows what it points to if they want to dig it out. > b4 dig can even use it as the starting point to find the email. > > Bonus: everyone is forced to use it (because it's built in to git) and > we always know exactly what it means: no debate about what the target > of the link should be. > > Regards, > > James Or a "log filter" flag to make git log - hide message id tag in the commit log - for those that hate it - convert it to lore links - for those that want it clickable -- MST