From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:21:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251016121653-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <892a58917795bf5d29394bb5123dae2a6615ca08.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 07:54:01AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-10-16 at 08:57 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 12:17:27PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 12:15, Linus Torvalds
> > > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > (The above script is "tested" in that I verified that yes
> > >
> > > .. premature 'hit send' situation. That should have said
> > >
> > > ..that yes] I verified that it superficially works, but didn't do
> > > anything exhaustive.
> > >
> > > It was obviously meant as a "look, you can do things like this",
> > > not as a real fully fleshed out solution.
> >
> > So, to summarize all of this, you are suggesting that maintainers:
> > - don't automatically include Link: tags when they don't
> > touch a
> > patch and apply it directly from the email as `b4 dig`
> > will be
> > able to find the patch.
> > - if a maintainer does change a patch, add the Link: tag so
> > that
> > people can find the original patch when looking it up
> > later.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > If so, ugh, that just raised the workload of all of us maintainers as
> > now we have to remember to do that second step manually (or through
> > the new git hook, which will NOT work without a network connection so
> > no applying patches from planes or trains).
>
> I agree with all the complexity. So why don't we simply have git am
> add message-id to the commit header if it exists in the patch? That
> way every b4 generated commit will have a message-id header. No-one
> will ever see it unless they ask for the --pretty=raw (which is what
> tools can do, so they'll all just work) and it is completely mindless
> so everyone always knows what it points to if they want to dig it out.
> b4 dig can even use it as the starting point to find the email.
>
> Bonus: everyone is forced to use it (because it's built in to git) and
> we always know exactly what it means: no debate about what the target
> of the link should be.
>
> Regards,
>
> James
Or a "log filter" flag to make git log
- hide message id tag in the commit log - for those that hate it
- convert it to lore links - for those that want it clickable
--
MST
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-13 11:53 James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-13 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:50 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 14:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-10-13 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-14 19:12 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-14 19:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 22:01 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-15 22:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 10:16 ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Hans de Goede
2025-10-16 18:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-10-16 7:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 20:23 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 8:08 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-13 15:40 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 17:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 19:35 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:34 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 20:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 20:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-13 21:46 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-14 14:23 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14 11:09 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 19:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-14 16:01 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-14 17:46 ` Greg KH
2025-10-14 17:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:09 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:55 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 18:04 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-15 18:37 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 19:13 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 22:51 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 4:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-10-16 6:57 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 10:04 ` Jani Nikula
2025-10-16 11:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 12:29 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 14:58 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-16 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 19:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-17 2:27 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-17 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 9:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-17 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-16 12:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 13:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-16 12:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-10-16 12:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 21:29 ` Kees Cook
2025-10-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown
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