From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0017.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 256A32DECD2 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.17 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760617240; cv=none; b=D1/93/7rGVXMlf/SY2w5hwOip09+wZh/ZkW2wSlmA1s6eQcj119J9SSl5eK6zAF9LS/Ttzf0m2dqN3ynNwRTkFBpg6ySOltd5o0/qoho2pH7MSOPIblVUIFKJwjYpDaQdX2Q7n674/9GWqQO0C8vpDefl7KwKXoWRmsGc+mQESY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760617240; c=relaxed/simple; bh=27l2Nc12Dn1+Sm9cKaM9e8kdhgARbi0pRJtonuSzbF8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G8gUacDGeakpLFDdM2Z7FNo8IDsganO7XCqRLmA/PS/YxPadcigXSR6bnYVssF/GxtHz/WlBr4kOm35DOQlq5NeeAAi0OYGW31/V3HOJfIg0l7HC5i73BS5CCo9WUouBIR/AlnjNxkz578Jab0RpdvW0MJtKLFcr0jeAt6/H/Zs= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.17 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf19.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E97160310; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A1362002C; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 08:20:44 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Greg KH Cc: Linus Torvalds , Konstantin Ryabitsev , dan.j.williams@intel.com, Doug Anderson , James Bottomley , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers Message-ID: <20251016082044.332607a4@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <2025101631-foyer-wages-8458@gregkh> References: <68ee73dcd10ee_2f89910075@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> <2025101448-overtake-mortality-99c8@gregkh> <68efd54da845e_2f89910071@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> <20251015-versed-active-silkworm-bb87bd@lemur> <2025101631-foyer-wages-8458@gregkh> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.20.0git84 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: kzsprozaozatibbffmn61tjpn6u9t6rt X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout01 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4A1362002C X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX19DliA30xb/GtjGU3nFiZrVncZ8tPEQO8w= X-HE-Tag: 1760617234-477573 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX19e/OuJ5YWjlVHte9N6PmDt5O3lmFX1shhC27hjzxf6HTUTm5impzy0/uJ+cmZ95NH7xUq941aF58v0JejLCeY6QIb+nsRK9CUQTt5jW7tmyALvrUBveHw5AdZq/HOhY+r5JbujMdDvDaK78vx2oegiVwysU0j0mu5C3490Ti+YwBVydDnYd9+BSiFf31B1DMXkvo5otxEt8KsX+LdpEFQIUsHmQE7o/eSRTw3OftA745/JmwVnM/sdc4jI4fsy7PMn5aRuzgs2pmsWO4iEpBO+NbauwjlxfbuoKn3v9CK2qeRUiwyqRudmFkkMQdeQU9a+ToGWF3qHxX1h3Gj1wExBZFEjVWUK9qy7/ehU7dtwU65YRUgHik/l On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 08:57:23 +0200 Greg KH wrote: > I predict that maintainers are just going to drop the Link tag and not > remember to manually add it back, when touching patches, as that > increased their already-limited workload (and again, prevents from > applying patches without a good network connection). And overall, > that's going to be a loss in our source history for people trying to > track down problems with changes in there. This! I already said that if I have to remove the "useless" links, I'm not going to add any links. I do this and the daisy chain because others have told me it's useful. If I have to do manual work for something I don't use, why should I bother? Like Linus, if it doesn't work for him, why should I do extra work at every commit so that it's useful for others, when currently it's automatically added by my scripts? -- Steve