From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 18:22:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251015182245.05c28887@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c311cf11f2e0bc2046c428e398508010c7626855.camel@sipsolutions.net>
On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 00:01:38 +0200
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> So yeah, circling back to "benevolent" -- for me, this has definitely
> broken the "benevolent" part and a lot of trust. But that's fine, I can
> also do a job that heavily resolves around following a manager's
> arbitrary whims. But my heart won't be in it.
Yes it does appear that we all have extra work to do because one person
doesn't like the current method. I don't think I saw anyone else complain
about the "useless" link either. Maybe I missed it. But currently it's all
been "Alright, fine, I'll work around this" and not one "Oh Great! This is
most definitely helpful!", like what happened when Linus created "git".
I'm currently looking for someone to help me with my maintainership. Masami
came on board, but what happened was that he basically maintains all things
"probe" related and I do everything else. That split still takes up more
time than we have designated.
Unfortunately, I've had many people say to me "I don't ever want to be a
top level maintainer" and "better you than me", which makes it very
difficult to find a helper. This discussion isn't helping with that
perspective either.
-- Steve
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-13 11:53 James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-13 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:50 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 14:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-10-13 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-14 19:12 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-14 19:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 22:01 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-15 22:22 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-10-16 10:16 ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Hans de Goede
2025-10-16 18:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-10-16 7:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 20:23 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 8:08 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-13 15:40 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 17:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 19:35 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:34 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 20:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 20:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-13 21:46 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-14 14:23 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14 11:09 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 19:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-14 16:01 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-14 17:46 ` Greg KH
2025-10-14 17:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:09 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:55 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 18:04 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-15 18:37 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 19:13 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 22:51 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 4:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-10-16 6:57 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 10:04 ` Jani Nikula
2025-10-16 11:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 12:29 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 14:58 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-16 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 19:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-17 2:27 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-17 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 9:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-17 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-16 12:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 13:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-16 12:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 12:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 21:29 ` Kees Cook
2025-10-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown
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