From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A985C2FABE3 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755805954; cv=none; b=j8m993qD9NJRY67K5duRu6AnBgq7q/4oFgGy4xxA7I9wLR96NvIhSNpSE/Fw8Kgov05qPMRe8/YaH1+clFYQUM6RY5Ayj4RgZdY9DjT+ft+B9Pv8rgogmd1c7RMSOzaQoBiBwpIlUtNxkri73nW/bd0XRx5pXl8oEjcgixMpRHs= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755805954; c=relaxed/simple; bh=6x1kbJyri6SDhlMOz6DdcGMsk1MK8DLYtZmg2og4J7Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VTLuLQItOp3Hh/5j+PmvZshlilhi6Yh83/rRqTO8koVq4LL2oFv5tcOkGCNlSK9dbuqPgTBtkvo7d23f0/l8XpuKy9/4HNw3jqmi5niBxJ4jJPlLYU5WkPEnScfDmLuiAVQvDGG8mfIIURQszherjJQbLDoBIhQSuHII7QFzUhg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Ht+qo7Hv; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Ht+qo7Hv" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0DB5C4CEEB; Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1755805953; bh=6x1kbJyri6SDhlMOz6DdcGMsk1MK8DLYtZmg2og4J7Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Ht+qo7Hvy1kg3CK2yIXW0QY9dTipVq2vNe/1KA/qBsxhGHKAiwFB8d0FIGyITNYUc pB4QVVfJ0wOEDi4e4aa6XJV9HGMhNzLaL+w4BSBEyvWJTiB3mityynK6pFUItBCVgG ie/F3ljl0OGAIjQI59ieSfiYVsJLrn/VFUENG8J87SGw3IUi5LJy3TlpdpXR+C4Bec 2S0sZkFIr1hqVthRK8IMBijerNDy4Te+Vbb23Ub5LD9q9U1zwnWgxxZMwmKAozp8EA 7rl355fR1mzcnmFmAV8uXmxNHjVPiQgQrC4NqKvwgAQQBc5GoU1kDCQFXvhZJ38Hz4 q6GcvoypQycog== Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 21:52:29 +0200 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Steven Rostedt Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , James Bottomley , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Annotating patches containing AI-assisted code Message-ID: <20250821215229.5f4ed387@foz.lan> In-Reply-To: <20250821150757.26813600@gandalf.local.home> References: <1npn33nq-713r-r502-p5op-q627pn5555oo@fhfr.pbz> <12ded49d-daa4-4199-927e-ce844f4cfe67@kernel.org> <9020e75d-361f-457f-9def-330d8964f431@paulmck-laptop> <20250818230729.106a8c48@foz.lan> <9383F8DB-CD38-40CC-B91D-7F98E8156C04@HansenPartnership.com> <4tacplepoih3wvejopmtkdg7ujtvwmufd5teiozk5im2jikn7a@jdbou6kwindl> <20250821122329.03c77178@foz.lan> <20250821125037.5cf5be3d@gandalf.local.home> <20250821193041.398ed30b@foz.lan> <20250821135329.16dad71e@gandalf.local.home> <20250821203259.2097c63b@foz.lan> <20250821150757.26813600@gandalf.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.49; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Em Thu, 21 Aug 2025 15:07:57 -0400 Steven Rostedt escreveu: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 20:32:59 +0200 > Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > Btw, even in the case of a bigger pattern you saw there and you > > may be repeating, you won't be the only one doing it: an entire > > generation that used K&C textbook are also repeating them. Plus > > the ones that used newer books whose authors got inspired from > > it. > > Since the authors actively encouraged people to use their examples, there's > no incentive to go after anyone. True. > > In practice, even with the original book's copyright, I doubt > > anyone could actually enforce copyrights if one picks one of the > > book's code and use as-is (and more likely one would adjust > > coding style, parameter pass logic, etc). > > I'm not so sure. But since most people who write coding books want people > to use their work, there's been no precedence on someone going after > someone for using code from a book (that I know of). > > But there's a lot of assumptions in this thread, and I fear that those that > take a too lenient approach to AI may get burned by it. AI is new, so yeah, there's always a risk. But then again, there's a risk already without it. I don't think the risk is too much different. Perhaps it is even lower, as all major companies are investing in AI, and they don't want to be sued. Plus, they're much more interested on the direct revenue AI can produce for them. So, probably there aren't much intent to try costly legal actions with low chances to monetize by going after people using AI. Thanks, Mauro