From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F487393DD9 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2025 20:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755809996; cv=none; b=Gwe0qyhXB6HtT3190aas4VHUpjr3ssNnEdM34bm9sxsyyB+X2unQ6NdU7E1IXAzfUYn9OUc4u2l06m0Op5vwEdgoIamBgB0Q+zs+mthscwmwiJOVrfj0WtWcDtv54ful/k36XnVSWlriGxc4oXbyk5sVSBVnFDrZdRT3RsHYryM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755809996; c=relaxed/simple; bh=GpcCxn9GfF5EUrbeHIDHmZBthwjprD4p8VNgAbhXB74=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=tbvQmE1u/bRIqIRzIA4qME/tHRWoYWMKFWyn1+RTZDJww6skBLVRgm9o2p5evcTNrwf3aTt+5PsJ7n6jwbk4OGd+UjxzFTuA2Z+75yBEHX4I/aFP1378brlMK0bJwIl/MeWgUHXlwpjN0CovVdwCGeSBhnYtt9doaQC6iXb5jMo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b=GM3OqV9w; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b="GM3OqV9w" Received: from trampoline.thunk.org (pool-173-48-113-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.113.69]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 57LKxonH010259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 21 Aug 2025 16:59:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1755809992; bh=1UZbu40+NQ+L5f8C12ebvpREaa+BoEnTLmppeBFRg54=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GM3OqV9wnYmT9cWN6othS4pgEltxzdaGFZkj4zsS/P7WuhwQaNtEDNw0Qxsw0awmi DAKCTnSUzenocS30OaAzz6+5glF17HRa5v+vrEAgNjdL2Z4O4f3DBwuyMJAtZBGjwc wo3OHtGbbdxbyS/vgfNMMRB/L8vrchOwjmiWq9mre8iSeigy+CeIhq0jxFecQ5R8Dn m6ZLIgKeduQ0d/tNz3qN1a/mxBHEaPiNyVyZTpzIuVVIGyelsCejACShbcnagcvqgv dV/LCkxIGl81R6EuirgNBJVkM1nXL97//lLmblo9p8UrF/5/e76MxxNVj4WHswTpS2 fkGV00vXZl4Rw== Received: by trampoline.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id BC2CF2E00D6; Thu, 21 Aug 2025 16:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 16:59:50 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: James Bottomley Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Adding more formality around feature inclusion and ejection Message-ID: <20250821205950.GB1284215@mit.edu> References: <20250821203407.GA1284215@mit.edu> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250821203407.GA1284215@mit.edu> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 04:34:07PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > (2) is a very hard problem, and so there is a tendency to focus on > solving problems (1) and (2). "solving problems (1) and (3) instead." Apologies for the typo. - Ted