From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 545FD219A71 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2025 08:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754467480; cv=none; b=OVCwCRd1wRuMcIccFN5zWPw24QVr+lsBi58msfuYp1fTifNh6u1m/AM2KiEgU0VYycbohMQY1bOnyPUR9X/E3C14qcT8r6E/QNDpZO1V7U+aShaCGbvsl0wbmNio+MRyUPD/x4LWsdUCNI/5I+O8u1qabtZD1Lqm3yWSn1CAawA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754467480; c=relaxed/simple; bh=8rVpfaiseEnwodk3bw/JtWFIBafUgmXwpNei8S8DMhU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=GvC5y0K/Qr+YmlKWZVfMeIJ4tcV6WBicvuUEf4QqoWcFLVLqKd6OZsFRCVgmYqWiw4dH1Pao3avwu7aka38UPHgz7rYlA6vJ5aBesBY90f+ZzfACiPvsSMkHMny5cu8DpTdx+37/gtLsoo/qkDp2DqlLty3VGRTxu5mW5xc2qlo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=O2Di3VRW; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="O2Di3VRW" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43D2BC4CEE7; Wed, 6 Aug 2025 08:04:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1754467479; bh=8rVpfaiseEnwodk3bw/JtWFIBafUgmXwpNei8S8DMhU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=O2Di3VRWfkUzyB3dYPAGp3mKy163pFXJb8VbbgZD1Uqa2x0rApBKNsLoBaas4zQH0 J2KkMKysE74cRzOqDiVMmdkqRtM8eNxBWT/y2IpXR5AwyVhC1RZjeurlJppRmhs4d6 O+wXRTNdR4uHxc5pOgXMdDL5W/qcmDYoov9kunaY= Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 09:04:30 +0100 From: Greg KH To: James Bottomley Cc: Sasha Levin , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The amount of -stable emails Message-ID: <2025080602-caution-uniformed-f5fa@gregkh> References: <162r47q9-rp56-67so-7032-2r1rn36p03n6@fhfr.pbz> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 01:33:39PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 13:26 -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 12:49:02PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > [...] > > > Actually, if stable emails just had a header tag, it would be easy > > > for procmail to sort them out ... which is what I've been asking > > > for for years.  X-Stable-Base: and X-Stable: seem to be reasonably > > > common and catch most of it, but codifying the use in the kernel > > > documentation and using them consistently would really help. > > > > Do we have any stable-related mails that don't have an X-Stable: > > header? > > It seems to be mostly working for now, but what I often find is the > header changes on a whim and the filter stops working. When has it changed? If it does, always let us know as odds are it is not intentional. > And, since nothing is written down, we all have to guess again what it > means. If you're confident this one's not going to change, why not > document it and commit to using it in the stable process docs? Sure, I can do that. But also, if these emails really aren't needed/wanted, we can easily just not send them out. I have done so since the start of the stable kernel process, just over 20 years ago, as I thought they were informative. But if not, and people are just treating them as spam to file away, I can gladly ONLY email them to the stable-commits mailing list so that lore can properly archive them. thanks, greg k-h