From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC64A55 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754415286; cv=none; b=A7NNh5rykoMaC7Bh7xGIKFonNI/dv+jA82/whGOy5izgGyRpTfK6IKbEJfIqI6iMwUl1pdd85V5hqS/pzbTDen8wwy2r7hpo7pzM5pu2NrZZBFdTQyCaV9/G7S2Hi6iw2KCSLuDk2/hVx8HgfOWhS9wGHGtyFff6tY0BnDGlcLE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754415286; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ncHh7cfxHsEzkvOGrDT2+rAf/vqKqFdbAfptLJJpuSQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=BCj+wWRaCnMbW3w2hMG9YLC98+jvgMbUoF6Z1U72SfNZUY9PmZaaMMQSkSmJm+xkQOs+yp7EBbn4za6GUL/rANqP3kqwZYMf94YH5INmHKYL05GQ+HYSObCLVB5v3LhB2vzUcrv5wlkxiSISY3M9wlKbauIdXTyGGNsvJT7oFio= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=iSlWfh1i; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="iSlWfh1i" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AAC1C4CEF8; Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:34:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1754415286; bh=ncHh7cfxHsEzkvOGrDT2+rAf/vqKqFdbAfptLJJpuSQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=iSlWfh1i/9nHI7mu4d0nwEAMWO1UJNXlPUgeDpjBDsVIMq+ssQ7OobxWI4Oln+8D9 J9xBZtLyJX62ibPEXBN3XiA2xLDEb/bGRwTZleWPfKlVK7lQWg9VWVfo5/oe3P1bLo WuqY8RgfmXF9GFvmXl8sKXF7l//ezZswnqxo9fiE= Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 18:34:35 +0100 From: Greg KH To: James Bottomley Cc: Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The amount of -stable emails Message-ID: <2025080515-grandpa-prankster-ee83@gregkh> References: <162r47q9-rp56-67so-7032-2r1rn36p03n6@fhfr.pbz> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 12:49:02PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 17:38 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > This proposal is coming as a followup to the brief IRC discussion > > that happened a few months back. > > > > The amount of e-mails that are coming (with maintainers directly > > CCed) as a result of patches being merged to -stable is so > > overwhelming that I am not sure that people are making any productive > > use of it whatsoever. > > > > I am personally pretty much ignoring most of it, as (a) I wouldn't > > have time to do anything else otherwise (b) I don't have a sufficient > > motivation / time to invest effort into stable in the fist place. > > > > I feel it'd be beneficial to discuss this, and (depending on the > > outcome)perhaps make it opt-in (or opt-out) at least, with > > people/subsystems having means how to be excluded from all that ... > > ? > > Actually, if stable emails just had a header tag, it would be easy for > procmail to sort them out ... which is what I've been asking for for > years. X-Stable-Base: and X-Stable: seem to be reasonably common and > catch most of it, but codifying the use in the kernel documentation and > using them consistently would really help. These "a patch has been added to the stable queue" has had the following X- tags on them since August 2023: X-stable: commit X-Patchwork-Hint: ignore and I'm sure I only added that because you, or someone else, asked :) You can also filter on stable-commits@vger.kernel.org, which is what I do locally. So filter away! thanks, greg k-h