From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F9BD1E4A2; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1722266198; cv=none; b=TrPYlpIhiXVtjTEA0LZn05+Uvt+RF/DVB/YPJAb+nBMLnawr8vlRT4rMsLjML/WxiR0MuXV+/5XQhq4dGkMUo/f2UPmrOs24VwElUoj22Yu9EmWWZdYLunftymSSMSSB3epakdi5kq5hgkgEAEHKjZE9RnG8Brd1w26D6/3B7wo= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1722266198; c=relaxed/simple; bh=AiAQTt2g0SacEgBRXmGh0/vw2yrQYDrMGirQg/MYj2s=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=NGAxT4i7sZ5IoJHWhaqWil/PoSnC2pDGgEkyvfmJ+DC8LK6wLKQZ9lt8BQDvrLQRT4izw393AjF8yZDbfoArIph+49+CIxpBftgCRMYYb9qXebvITzCU5rP/nlWkj9t+++1gHyZYkcGnmpO/9NhdAolbON2vlMN7l2lv8Df8XAQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=Id0owCRU; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="Id0owCRU" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AB16C4AF0A; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:16:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1722266197; bh=AiAQTt2g0SacEgBRXmGh0/vw2yrQYDrMGirQg/MYj2s=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Id0owCRUZDCMAPG6946QpFMgQb76ZgEnuyNLzqWAY7UGUPKqNCdWxZv+CBI6+hahf ZY4+zUoPA6Qch/SolqCys4VBlvOG93CEu8CIPPJpFw+Pbhx+R1chviDLRDakJoxnNb ZgcUj6rVJ3qgi0/2ZPAefnflWiK+gLhFoJua0ZsA= Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:16:34 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: James Bottomley , Laurent Pinchart , Dan Williams , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgg@nvidia.com Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful? Message-ID: <2024072931-carnival-dumpling-57fa@gregkh> References: <668c67a324609_ed99294c0@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> <20240726142731.GG28621@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <66a43c48cb6cc_200582942d@dwillia2-mobl3.amr.corp.intel.com.notmuch> <20240728111826.GA30973@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <2024072802-amendable-unwatched-e656@gregkh> <2b4f6ef3fc8e9babf3398ed4a301c2e4964b9e4a.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20240729075607.71ca5150@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240729075607.71ca5150@kernel.org> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 07:56:07AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 11:49:44 -0400 James Bottomley wrote: > > cross subsystem NAKs > > Could y'all please stop saying "cross subsystem NAKs".. > It makes it sound like networking is nacking an addition to RDMA > or storage. The problem is that nVidia insists on making their > proprietary gateway a "misc driver" usable in all subsystems. > > If they want to add something at the top level, all affected > subsystems should have a say. > Also, the misc driver maintainer (i.e. me), explicitly asked for the review by the networking maintainer here. It wasn't a drive-by-nak at all. greg k-h