From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3529C225D7; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721915029; cv=none; b=IfjgKHHH2Lr3aSPsIty0fjXtmgP0ojwDj4xBKCt5iIMLbOgzZCqTEhlH2nNbLo4kvqIt2rSFpABWpAPf5T7JVlpnzmV7w6fLjWNMZVE9u8ht6BrtTa7Utvq0M4LK/hH8bxSwuCrayQyFqlchI1VtCua5/UnPtAJGgQrI7gbgREM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721915029; c=relaxed/simple; bh=YKUCT0zwIVfetAmiAL7WYXohNFMTbJ9ulBXs00lVIv0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aMcW3stk9n5r1xBxfcadPYVuVKmYu727t64R2genSjE6p4kwrZORLS1tQrEXKozZJvc4ECoC+9w3xPvag8dAPs8TlFF237AhrKQVNWakIgh4VgsZit5B5v6XgridNDZ2v4Mfry+SBicauVCxhoGXVyOOboZsUgmgPG4l39nsvrQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 962BCC116B1; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 09:44:07 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Ricardo Ribalda Delgado Cc: Leon Romanovsky , Laurent Pinchart , James Bottomley , Jiri Kosina , Dan Williams , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgg@nvidia.com Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful? Message-ID: <20240725094407.4b062971@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <668c67a324609_ed99294c0@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> <1e82a5c97e915144e01dd65575929c15bc0db397.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20240724200012.GA23293@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20240725122315.GE7022@unreal> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.20.0git84 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:02:13 +0200 Ricardo Ribalda Delgado wrote: > As a user, and as an open source Distro developer I have a small hint. > But you could also ask users what they think about not being able to > use their notebook's cameras. The last time that I could not use some > basic hardware from a notebook with Linux was 20 years ago. FYI, I love my Dell XPS 13. But it's old. The battery died once and I had to replace it. I would love to buy a new one, but the new one's webcam is not supported by Linux. I'm just waiting for when this will be resolved. :-p -- Steve