From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F8551862C for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721111137; cv=none; b=NRB1yGQ9A/6B0XJJOyidq3p1MxVmCFxwsSWkOpseQalfnmH+Z7n++uzYNZE9VGmfwJ/Z2ZmEw2Jr9p0zHDOHpilu6mPIsmtkUcGzMtN7XZZakPiSAwONGetxHEnW5GQPEr6KOV8iCnEf+COObk/apYDpeQ1BjjMcUpGjjhfft5w= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721111137; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wiPOm/k6EKMsKrTi0Yes++Ge6FdHbYQtV732NkY3YME=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ene0CtiJnJKNBXx2XlR2EsKeud/lMimB160c7sSbINiD6DHEjD8GUJ0sWltGuNyc7HhHVzh1RYjkQLNenqio/nePzluz05aTeAcc5avA2H09awpGbkLgi+36RBiyTbuXVX9nwT0MBeN/18YdVMkEP1i88GUoEx7SAg7L6p8BBDE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=IHsyRqWv; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="IHsyRqWv" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3358C116B1; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:25:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1721111137; bh=wiPOm/k6EKMsKrTi0Yes++Ge6FdHbYQtV732NkY3YME=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=IHsyRqWvCf3Rdo6dHRDzNqyMsGfKFm1HAQCY+ZkfvuCavDu0m+/SBg0vyQRPBI8c3 AbsHen6lEXhMTPunJDC1uU1UiROEVr1UvalaSW6IdYHbx413vAZ2D4Sg4CrHsfaRAb 7vmASRfrfo6jrzW+5Bq392hNhCQye6RHu4TX2ZYI= Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:25:34 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Mark Brown Cc: Alexandre Belloni , Mimi Zohar , Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , Sasha Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches Message-ID: <2024071612-bauble-handset-93de@gregkh> References: <0e6c7c8ed259dcb50631c6fdc3d86d3080bdc6f3.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh> <3a357a63f67f3e6aff5e6d020d40b51fa24e0280.camel@linux.ibm.com> <202407151434198c3715e9@mail.local> <2024071515-zestfully-womankind-1901@gregkh> <8a0d05e1-71be-445e-afcf-4764149ea60a@sirena.org.uk> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8a0d05e1-71be-445e-afcf-4764149ea60a@sirena.org.uk> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 07:04:34PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 04:40:01PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 04:34:19PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote: > > > > I'm very surprised that it didn't cross anyone's mind yet that > > > contributors and maintainers don't bother using Cc: stable because they > > > don't care about stable for various reasons. So the behaviour is nether > > > good nor bad and doesn't have to be penalized. > > > Totally true. The first rule of the stable tree is "it will not put > > additional burden on any developer or maintainer that doesn't want to > > participate in it." So if you don't want to deal with it, wonderful, > > don't take anything and just don't worry about it. > > FWIW as we've discussed before I stopped adding explicit CCs for the > most part since AUTOSEL is picking up far more than I ever would so it > doesn't seem worth the effort to filter which is a variation on what > Alexandre mentioned. If you want to, we can add your subsystems to the "do not run AUTOSEL or Fixes:" list and then you can just mark whatever you feel is needed for stable directly. We already do that for many other subsystems (kvm, mm, xfs, and others), just let us know and we will be glad to do so as it reduces our load AND it lets you be in control of what is in stable. thanks, greg k-h