From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A4518509C for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721030577; cv=none; b=Fah7Xbw04ynBSCO+GC9Ths/nJLdxQETRe3yXHIi8WYW9VrXWgVO63ArXocFuRL6rQzw+cenq5PICz31sHmWk+3u7rX6qAfWkIdICBxLNrl7HSHhxsiV60rBcwCRkxK7TuQVvAljUugSsjbDsl+zL9BlmMQcTgH754Cl1r7K740Y= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721030577; c=relaxed/simple; bh=9n92b+g402+qrsZlAWKBraEXuTamvocmtRDrQ0JQVjk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=UX2HfeKz2O8snOAB6SYcv7cnGtt578/ubVdu/arsGFeDHSK6/ZngWPWfJAJJQSvVTDnuXmkdoR4oVDe4owxZQSSSfx/NDG1jz6v9oHuH4dH1hbo0igHvvFa2AlfYB3GAMcKwi1u4dAeA5/OlqgiQYcIdQUBK+te8mbJMN6o+Ax4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=u+g8dKBR; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="u+g8dKBR" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC5F8C4AF0A; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:02:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1721030577; bh=9n92b+g402+qrsZlAWKBraEXuTamvocmtRDrQ0JQVjk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=u+g8dKBRsgmOoaP43r54mgYOT1zudiSDqlx9IqUPiZj6bkh0DofBT+DD9dUwITHZk IqV/lmjswaf1YjZzS8PspXkNwLzo6HKPkme1hiN6Nr9PTwBgW9rhVt4oizbaTwtmtq OIU3WTA0Uar1vaoYPDe6alrt8oHWyPuwlaNvBBlU= Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:02:54 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley Cc: Sasha Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches Message-ID: <2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh> References: <0e6c7c8ed259dcb50631c6fdc3d86d3080bdc6f3.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 04:09:06PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 16:06, James Bottomley > wrote: > > > > But we know how to enforce a unified view of process: we document it in > > Documentaion/process ... > > Hahhahhahaahh. > > Ahh, you're such a kidder, James. Yeah, and that's the issue here, we have whole subsystems and many many maintainers and developers that do not follow this at all, hence our need to pull into stable commits that only have a "Fixes:" tag on it. Now we can start running a bot on all submissions that says something like the one that I have been doing for the USB subsystem for the past few months, here's the text I use: - You have marked a patch with a "Fixes:" tag for a commit that is in an older released kernel, yet you do not have a cc: stable line in the signed-off-by area at all, which means that the patch will not be applied to any older kernel releases. To properly fix this, please follow the documented rules in the Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file for how to resolve this. But I doubt everyone wants to see that polute their mailing lists :( Anyway, if people want to stick to the current, documented, process, great, but as-is, trying to get people to follow that is rough and not really working. thanks, greg k-h